User talk:MasterWill

Hi Bill, What happened to the Arrowsreach Wiki? I'm surprised you aren't doing all this page-of-links and festival planning on it, rather than an summary-style wiki like Cunnan. -Cian Gillebhrath 16:53, 20 Mar 2006 (CST)

I thought that by creating Arrowsreach centric wiki pages on Cunnan that cross references into other pages on Cunnan I would be able to encourage more of our members to use and contribute to Cunnan as a whole. For example, I am amazed that Mistress Margie has not been introduced to Cunnan as she would be an avid user if she could get over her initial fear for the complex and arcane computer arts. Cunnan is also incredably handy and useful, and I can see such "group centric" use increasing as more and more people find out about it, at that point we should create a seperate category for Lochac group pages rather than splitting it off into a seperate wiki. --MasterWill 00:26, 21 Mar 2006 (CST)

This is adresses to everyone in general: Is it possible to have a subwiki? What I'm thinking is a change in page colour, indicating that certain content related to a limited group, and a small automated disclaimer, that not all the info on such pages will be totally intellegible to people outside the group. The Krae Glas hall hire directory (happy to make it the melbourne hall hire directory if we got entries) seems one such thing to me, and st monicas occasionally has such things (eg festival planning), although it is easier with our smaller group to get people to read emails, than visit a wiki. Maybe technically, I'm talking a second wiki, but one open to all lochac groups, that uses the same software as cunnan, and meshes seamlessly with it? It is one of the constant conflicts we have, and I too would like to have somewhere I don't feel worried about havign the two concepts of useage warring against each other. Tiff

• This is sort of why I wrote to you Will. Cunnan has pages that supposedly define its purpose (i.e. Cunnan:What isn't Cunnan?, Cunnan:What is Cunnan?) but I suspect they were written a while ago by the St Monicans who set Cunnan up. However, the "rules" have been pretty well followed so far. The regular editors have been trying hard to delocalise the content of the entries, and not limit them to solely SCA details. The one exception has been the KraeGlas hall hire directory, but since that was written by Monicans and their locals, it is easy to ignore.

IIRC it was previously decided that Cunnan's pages weren't going to be substitute webpages for branches, nor was Cunnan going to be a repository for documents like newsletters, manuals etc. The servers have shifted from St Mon's to Del's machines.

While I think its great that you are encouraging Arrowreachians to use and contribute to Cunnan (especially Margie.... we need stuff on period theatre added), I am just worried that the recent edits will set a precedent that contradicts the existing norms. Tiff's idea is good. Having a distinctly separate area for SCA (and other groups) to have their own pages with their own styles would be better, but I fear that it will hard to manage as the server may not have the resources, and it will be harder for us to moderate. A separate wiki for Lochac groups might be the best way to go on that.

- Cian Gillebhrath 17:03, 21 Mar 2006 (CST)

Having a second "area" within one wiki would be tricky the software we're using really isn't setup to handle that. What might be an option is to have a second wiki, a Lochac wiki, setup. Someone would need to ask Del, it's his server. A couple of changes to the interwiki link scheme and we'd have [[Lochac:some page]] and [[Cunnan:some page]] working to "pass" users between the two.

I'm not volunteering to approach Del about this but I'd support and help anyone who did.

- Tobin 17:39, 21 Mar 2006 (CST)

Before I started contributing to the Cunnan I went looking for Cunnan:Policies and guidelines on content, and I came to conclusion that what I intended to add was acceptable. Now that you have pointed out the other policy pages (i.e. Cunnan:What isn't Cunnan?, Cunnan:What is Cunnan?) I have found quite a lot of pages that seem to break the Cunnan:What isn't Cunnan? rules, for example, the Holy Roman Emperor and Guard pages have very little to do with re-enactment and read more like an encyclopaedia entries. The Cunnan:FAQ states that the local intrest pages have not been deleted because they don't conflict with what anyone else wants to write. There is a need for local pages, and dividing the wiki seems like such a waste of time and ends up reducing it's overall value. So to clear this up, we could create a page template that has a different background colour for local pages. --MasterWill 17:57, 21 Mar 2006 (CST)