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my opinion is quite different - a shirt is the garment next to a man's body, an undertunic mainly a modern word for the same thing. Shirts begin to get more tailored late in period, but there are still plenty that qualify as undertunics in the 16th C I think (I know many chemises only change by gathering at the neckline - it's still a tunic in cut)- I think there is no real during period change in construction, only a minor change in length.

You've got about 48 hours to discuss before I assume my textile knowledge is greater than yours (in contrast your weaponry knowledge is clearly much greater than mine), and update it, and thank you for spurring my edit.Tiff 19:05, 6 Mar 2006 (CST)