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For example,
For example,


Aquinas - Paris
Aquinas - Paris <br>
Albertus Magnus - Paris then Cologne (OK, so he worked as Bishop of Ratisbon)
Albertus Magnus - Paris then Cologne (OK, so he worked as Bishop of Ratisbon) <br>
John of Paris - Paris
John of Paris - Paris <br>


and so on.
and so on.
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Now, on the other hand, Humanists werent in Universities eg
Now, on the other hand, Humanists werent in Universities eg


Erasmus - studied in Paris, then quit academe to be an author
Erasmus - studied in Paris, then quit academe to be an author <br>
Petrach - studied in Colgne, then worked as a diplomat (etc)
Petrach - studied in Colgne, then worked as a diplomat (etc) <br>
Ronsard - hnot at Uni, Court Poet
Ronsard - hnot at Uni, Court Poet <br>
Machiavelli - civil servant and involuntary retiree
Machiavelli - civil servant and involuntary retiree <br>
Guiccardini - diplomat
Guiccardini - diplomat <br>


You can mount a much, much better argument that the Humanist movement was Court-centered rather than University centered.
See, Del, the thing I hate about the Humanists is their unwillingness to let either facts or logic get in the way of a good story ... you guys have a complete lack of scholarly rigour.

See, Del, the thing I hate about the Humanists is their collective unwillingness to let either facts or logic get in the way of a good story ... you guys have a complete lack of scholarly rigour.


Anton
Anton

Latest revision as of 11:50, 11 November 2003

Del,

No, No, No and No.

You have the whole University thing completely ass-backwards.

Scholastics were all Scholars based in Universities - thats why they're called Scholastics, dammit ...

For example,

Aquinas - Paris
Albertus Magnus - Paris then Cologne (OK, so he worked as Bishop of Ratisbon)
John of Paris - Paris

and so on.

Now, on the other hand, Humanists werent in Universities eg

Erasmus - studied in Paris, then quit academe to be an author
Petrach - studied in Colgne, then worked as a diplomat (etc)
Ronsard - hnot at Uni, Court Poet
Machiavelli - civil servant and involuntary retiree
Guiccardini - diplomat

You can mount a much, much better argument that the Humanist movement was Court-centered rather than University centered.

See, Del, the thing I hate about the Humanists is their collective unwillingness to let either facts or logic get in the way of a good story ... you guys have a complete lack of scholarly rigour.

Anton