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This is a really cool picture. Unfortunately, this device would not be registerable in the SCA today. Counterchaging complex objects over ordinaries hasn't been allowed since the early 1990's. It looks cool from a modern standpoint but it's not peiod. Is there maybe a more recent device that could be used? Or, maybe keep the device, and remove the "good device" caption. Since the heraldry section seems to get so much editing, I wanted to solicit opinions and not just change it unilaterally. --Sabine 07:48, 27 October 2006 (EST)

My only regret is that it took me so long to find this. This isn't a 'good' device and although it's striking and pretty, I'll change it to something heraldically sound when I get the chance, with apologies to the original contributor and armiger to whom the device belongs. Teceangl