Difference between revisions of "Talk:Corset"

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I haven't edited because I don't have the background to get the edit right.
 
I haven't edited because I don't have the background to get the edit right.
 
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Never heard of the hemp corded corsets, and I should have included the whalebone in the 16th century corsets which is when I beleive they were being used.
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All references to the 16th century and corsets that I have come across (ones that appeared not to be of some general waffle anyway) indicated the chest area was flattened which pushes up the breast line, apparently (I'm a boy so I will ahve to defer to the lasses here). I'm not talking about trying to remove the breasts altogether, but rather make it flat from the waist up until the upper edge of the garment.
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From 1577:
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"French women have inconceivably narrow waists...over the chemise they wear a corset or bodice, that they call a 'corps pique', which makes their shape more delicate and slender. It is fastened behind which helps to show off the form of the bust."
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And from the late 1590's
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"I will have a petticoate of silk, not red but of the finest silk there is...it shall have a French bodie, not of whalebone, for that is not stiff enough, but of horne for that will hold it out, it shall come, to keepe in my belly...my lad, will have a Busk of whalebone, it shall be tyed with two silk points..."
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The first is the small waist reference and the second indicates it's ability to hold in the stomach and shows that whalebone was used.
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Still if you find better info put it in. I won't complain on being corrected.
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--[[User:User 144|User 144]] 23:01, 5 Feb 2006 (CST)

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I don't have the expertise in this area, but....

  • alternate stiffening materials - hemp rope, whalebone
  • when did hemp corded corsets come in? I thought these were 15th C, although we are rather lacking in full proof of their existance
  • "They were not designed to draw in the waist nor enhance the breasts, rather they were to flatten the chest area." I'm not sure if I agree with that - seems there are plenty of 16th C corsets that do enhance the bust - not by making them bigger, but by better displaying the clevage than earlier garments.
  • tell me more about this smaller 16th C waist - I've never heard of that.

I haven't edited because I don't have the background to get the edit right. Tiff

Never heard of the hemp corded corsets, and I should have included the whalebone in the 16th century corsets which is when I beleive they were being used. All references to the 16th century and corsets that I have come across (ones that appeared not to be of some general waffle anyway) indicated the chest area was flattened which pushes up the breast line, apparently (I'm a boy so I will ahve to defer to the lasses here). I'm not talking about trying to remove the breasts altogether, but rather make it flat from the waist up until the upper edge of the garment.

From 1577:

"French women have inconceivably narrow waists...over the chemise they wear a corset or bodice, that they call a 'corps pique', which makes their shape more delicate and slender. It is fastened behind which helps to show off the form of the bust."

And from the late 1590's "I will have a petticoate of silk, not red but of the finest silk there is...it shall have a French bodie, not of whalebone, for that is not stiff enough, but of horne for that will hold it out, it shall come, to keepe in my belly...my lad, will have a Busk of whalebone, it shall be tyed with two silk points..."

The first is the small waist reference and the second indicates it's ability to hold in the stomach and shows that whalebone was used.

Still if you find better info put it in. I won't complain on being corrected. --User 144 23:01, 5 Feb 2006 (CST)