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''Herebe an explanation of why there formed in [[Romania]] a [[shire]] for a single [[city]] and not nation wide.''
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''Here be someone's explanation of why there formed in [[Romania]] a [[shire]] for a single [[city]] and not nation wide.''
   
This is a long and complicated scandal but here is a short summary.
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This is a long and complicated scandal but here is a short summary. Basically, there are two versions of the story:
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# People tried to form an [[SCA]] [[branch]] but there were two groups, the "[[historian]]s" and the "[[reenactor]]s", and they didn't get along. The [[kingdom]] tried to form the shire around the reenactors group at [[Hunedoara]] rather than involve both groups, but it intensified the rivalry anyway. The claim was that the reenactors were better at running [[SCA]] [[event]]s than the historians because they made more of an effort.
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# The counter claim was that the reenactors misrepresented their contribution and sought more support from the kingdom, including further [[sponsor]]ship. When that sponsorship did not end up to their liking, they stalled the process of starting the shire.
   
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Originally there were several people throughout Romania who were interested in forming a [[SCA]] [[group]]. At the beginning they worked well together and all contributed ideas. It soon became suspected that one of the main supporters of this idea was in fact not really in Romania but only pretending to be (I don't know why this person pretended). This person was supposed to be the main contact for people in the south east, particularly [[Bucharest]]. So, since this person wasn't there, they appeared communication problems and we lost contact with potential [[member]]s in Bucharest.
 
 
One of the other main people that supported this initiative found many people who wanted to become members but they were students of history and treated the other members with ill contempt because they felt that the non-historian members didn't know something about history. Although they were probably very well educated in history and could contribute much to the group, they were never ready to put their [[money]] where their mouths were. That is to say, they never made a single [[clothing|costume]] or [[weapon]] and didn't hold any [[event]]s or [[fighter practice]]s. As well, they reacted too quickly when making decisions and couldn't make rational plans. This caused conflicts with the group of serious re-enactors that was forming in Hunedoara.
 
 
At this time, the SCA in the rest of [[Drachenwald]] was interested in forming a shire in Romania. With the help of the members in [[Vienna]] (the [[Shire of Ad Flumen Caerulum]]) who offered to the members in Romania several membership donations it was possible for a shire to form. The [[Kingdom]] [[Seneschal]] at that time, Lord Barcsi Janos, decided that it would be better to form a small local shire of people who had shown themselves capable of running a shire and who embraced the ideals of the SCA than to form a nationwide shire which would encourage further fighting within the group.
 
 
Of course, this caused a certain amount of complaints and scandals following the announcement that Hunedoara would form a shire. But that soon passed and the history students went back to studying and things have progressed well since then. It is likely that eventually other shire will also form in Romania but more likely as individual cities and not a nationwide shire as it is more stable for the groups this way. Each can do as it pleases. Probably even those who were against the Hunedoara shire will eventually also form a shire of their own when they become more organised.
 
   
 
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Latest revision as of 14:02, 8 November 2010

Here be someone's explanation of why there formed in Romania a shire for a single city and not nation wide.

This is a long and complicated scandal but here is a short summary. Basically, there are two versions of the story:

  1. People tried to form an SCA branch but there were two groups, the "historians" and the "reenactors", and they didn't get along. The kingdom tried to form the shire around the reenactors group at Hunedoara rather than involve both groups, but it intensified the rivalry anyway. The claim was that the reenactors were better at running SCA events than the historians because they made more of an effort.
  2. The counter claim was that the reenactors misrepresented their contribution and sought more support from the kingdom, including further sponsorship. When that sponsorship did not end up to their liking, they stalled the process of starting the shire.

Moderator's Note: Various claims used to be made on this page that are very hard to verify. Cunnan is not a political soapbox, just an information source. If you really want to see the original content of this page, then look at its history.

See also