Cunnan:Village pump

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In Medieval villages people would gather at the Village Pump to discuss those items that were important to their lives. On Cunnan the Village Pump serves a similar purpose: Giving users a place to meet and discuss current events, policy and content.

Please add your comments under what is here now (unless someone has a better system :)


  • Some of the old VIllage pump articles have been moved to Old Village pump discussions to save space.
  • The new wiki server has now gone live.
  • Not all the Village pump articles were moved across from the old server (as they were no longer relevant)


Copyright violation

  • I'm pretty sure that SCA Australia retains the copyright for SCA membership form, unless we've got authorisation.
    • Hmmm, they do but the article only links to a copy of the form (as in its never actually been uploaded to Cunnan). Also, the article should probably have information about where to get the forms (not everyone needs the Aussie one) and what not as opposed to just being a copy of the form. - Tobin 12:14 23 Jul 2003 (EST)
    • So it's OK to link images stored externally? We should probably just link to the membership page - document names tend to change. Morgant 14:14 23 Jul 2003 (EST)

Wiki Projects

Here's an interesting thought: How about finding slightly older and stalled projects and redoing them here? Things like the University Handbook

I'm not saying we steal their work or try to "take over" but these kinds of topics could benifit from having a free wiki version. - Anon

Software Upgrade

  • I'll be upgrading the Wiki Software Cunnan is running later today 13-Aug-2003. So the wiki might not be useable for an hour or so around 8pm AEST (though it should only take a few minutes). You can take a look at what the upgraded software looks like at - Tobin
    • The software upgrade is now done. The edit times for pages is slightly off at the moment because the new software seems to think it is in the US - Tobin

Default skin

  • Beth would like to see the default, ugly, skin to Cologne Blue so that non-logged in visitors dont have to look at the site in an ugly format. Unless people object I'll make the switch at some point in about a weeks time (or I might even whip up a new skin that just has the basics and no extra fluff). You can set which skin you are using on Special:Preferences - Tobin 02:13, 26 Aug 2003 (EST)


  • I've turned on the page category feature so now you can add [[category:foobar]] to an article to add it to category "foorbar". These category links should be added to the very top of articles (they are invisible once the page has been saved). Take a look at Special:Categories to see the categories i've already set-up. I wont add the category instruction to the help pages until more of the articles are categorized - Tobin 22:03, 29 Aug 2003 (EST)

Slow page loading

Can something be done about the pages reloading? it took me 3 hours to upload 10 articles tonight - every one had to be re attempted 2-3 times, dude to :

The page cannot be displayed The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.

it isn't me as the rest of the net flies. is it the server? can you guys change host?

very annoying! - (this edit took 5 tries!)

Yeah this really does suck, the rest of the stuff on loads fine because it doesn't put as much strain on the server as the wiki software. When the server stops being spam bombed things should get better. I can put the wiki into "miser mode" but then things like Special:Wantedpages and the full text search wont be turned on. - Tobin 00:05, 16 Sep 2003 (EST)

SQL admin stuff

  • I've turned off the direct SQL query tool for admins. Its never been used, as far as I can tell, and playing with it will only slow the database down anyway. If anyone needs to use it for what ever reason let me know and I'll turn it back on. - Tobin 22:42, 16 Sep 2003 (EST)

"in period"

As this is a wiki devoted to medjeeval junk, why do we need to say 'in peroid' or 'the period' form, it's just pox. how about 'a common use' or 'examples show' instead. it's farkin irritating.

You're right it is annoying. I dont know why other users do it but most of the time I add "in period" to make sure people dont get confused with how it is done now or in the SCA. It is kind of redundant though... - Tobin
I think medjeeval is the operative word in this debate- In writing stuff up, we need to distinguish between what was done in medieval times, and what is done by people in SCA/metal weapons/renfair. Period is a quick & easy SCA-centric term that fits the bill. My personal beef with 'period' is that it's a massive cop-out - we should be saying things like (for example) 'Archaeological evidence shows that Lombards used rubber chickens in the early 12th century' in preference to 'Rubber chickens are period'. Do we want to add something to the Cunnan style guide about this? Morgant

wanted articles

At the time of writing this i have wittled down the none written articles. there was a few that had been linked 8 times, and now all that remains is 219 with only 2 links or less.

i will continue to work on these. - Ben

Good work! Feel free to keep working through the list but perhaps it would be better if you found a topic you know much about and wrote several long, useful articles about that topic. Its good that you are helping shorten the list but articles with more flesh are even better. - Tobin

Headline news

OK, I want a new major category for an idea I've been kicking around for a while. I want to do a series of pages, with the high points of the news of the day for a place and other things that someone living there would know. I dont so much want wars and battles, but when the new bridge got put up, who the King is sleeping with this week, who the top poets are and whether or not the harvest was good or bad. I've got some scrawled notes for 1589, and I'd like a set of pages I can do ... a "News from a Place and Time" section would be ideal. And could I please appeal for some way to easily put footnotes into Wiki ? I'm a footnote junkie, because that empowers readers to go do their own research.

  • Thats an interesting idea. I'd say the best way to go about it would be to link to pages with names like [[News from 1066]] of [[News from 1066, England]] from the different centuries. If there were lots of these pages we'd have to start dividing the centuries into decades. Anyway, the best thing to do now would be to create a sample page of headlines so that we can all comment on it. - Tobin

Working with Wikipedia

How do people see this site working with content on (or other sites I suppose)? If wikipedia has good content on some topic of interest, do we just address the re-enactment aspect and use an external links section to point people to the wikipedia page? Problem there is that as people surf they end up leaving this site and there won't likely be links to bring them back. Alternatively, we could copy over content from wikipedia so that linked content would point to the Cunnan version, but the obvious problem here is redundant maintainence. Whatever the consensus, it seems the style guide could say a little more about this. JakeVortex 10:34, 30 Oct 2003 (EST)

  • When I've moved in info from the wikipedia I've tried to re-word it so that its a bit more SCA relevant. I'd say that the best way to work with wikipedia content is to move it into Cunnan and work from there, that way we can add whatever we feel is needed to the article without worrying about the goals of the wikipedia.