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User 144 at 18:35, 5 November 2007

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	Posts extend 20-40cm below ground. But that may not be original reading (don't need to be that deep) - may have been weighted down by house roofs. They were hammered into position (not inserted in dug trenches).		Posts extend 20-40cm below ground. But that may not be original reading (don't need to be that deep) - may have been weighted down by house roofs. They were hammered into position (not inserted in dug trenches).

	===Wattles==		===Wattles===
	More lightweight walls - fences, walls as part of a double wall construction, used av 15-25mm diameter wattles. Heavy single house walls and other heavy uses, av 20-30mm. Thinner wattles required when posts closer together, or less gaps in weave required.		More lightweight walls - fences, walls as part of a double wall construction, used av 15-25mm diameter wattles. Heavy single house walls and other heavy uses, av 20-30mm. Thinner wattles required when posts closer together, or less gaps in weave required.
	Wattles most likely derived from long term coppising, especially the thicker ones.		Wattles most likely derived from long term coppising, especially the thicker ones.

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2007-11-04T19:39:07Z

=Wattles

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	In some cases Blackthorn was used as wattles in lower few rows of fences (not houses), possibly to deter vermin. [[Irish]] accounts ([[12th century\|12th C]] story ''Aislnge Meic Congliblackthorn on fences to deter [[animal]]s.		In some cases Blackthorn was used as wattles in lower few rows of fences (not houses), possibly to deter vermin. [[Irish]] accounts ([[12th century\|12th C]] story ''Aislnge Meic Congliblackthorn on fences to deter [[animal]]s.

	''References~~:''~~		''References
	* Murry, Hilary, 1983, "Viking and Early Medieval Buildings in Dublin" (BAR, Oxford) ISBN: 0-86054-235-1

	==Other uses==		==Other uses==

99.247.25.72: /* Wattles */

2007-11-04T19:38:29Z

Wattles

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	Posts extend 20-40cm below ground. But that may not be original reading (don't need to be that deep) - may have been weighted down by house roofs. They were hammered into position (not inserted in dug trenches).		Posts extend 20-40cm below ground. But that may not be original reading (don't need to be that deep) - may have been weighted down by house roofs. They were hammered into position (not inserted in dug trenches).

	===Wattles===		===Wattles==

	The size was somewhat dependent on size of posts.
	More lightweight walls - fences, walls as part of a double wall construction, used av 15-25mm diameter wattles. Heavy single house walls and other heavy uses, av 20-30mm. Thinner wattles required when posts closer together, or less gaps in weave required.		More lightweight walls - fences, walls as part of a double wall construction, used av 15-25mm diameter wattles. Heavy single house walls and other heavy uses, av 20-30mm. Thinner wattles required when posts closer together, or less gaps in weave required.
	Wattles most likely derived from long term coppising, especially the thicker ones.		Wattles most likely derived from long term coppising, especially the thicker ones.

99.247.25.72: /* Wattles */

2007-11-04T19:37:53Z

Wattles

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	Figure-eight shaped knots of wattle found - probably used to bind tops of more roughly made walls, joins in fences and for simple joints. (similar shown in ''Lutrell psalter fl63b'') Fibres are probably twisted as worked - prevents snapping.		Figure-eight shaped knots of wattle found - probably used to bind tops of more roughly made walls, joins in fences and for simple joints. (similar shown in ''Lutrell psalter fl63b'') Fibres are probably twisted as worked - prevents snapping.

	In some cases Blackthorn was used as wattles in lower few rows of fences (not houses), possibly to deter vermin. [[Irish]] accounts ([[12th century\|12th C]] story ''Aislnge Meic ~~Conglinne'', [[8th century\|8th C]] [[laws]]) mention crests of blackthorn~~ on fences to deter [[animal]]s.		In some cases Blackthorn was used as wattles in lower few rows of fences (not houses), possibly to deter vermin. [[Irish]] accounts ([[12th century\|12th C]] story ''Aislnge Meic Congliblackthorn on fences to deter [[animal]]s.

	''References:''		''References:''

Cian: Reverted edits by 207.241.245.140 (Talk); changed back to last version by 68.187.172.119

2007-10-25T23:22:05Z

Reverted edits by 207.241.245.140 (Talk); changed back to last version by 68.187.172.119

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			'''Wattle and Daub''' is a simple construction method in which a fence is constructed by twining flexible sticks between (non-flexible) posts, and then covering the fence in mud. Wattle fencing is constructed in the same manner, but generally leaves off the mud.
	hi mom

			The name 'wattle' refers the flexible wooden sticks, not to a species of [[wood]], and 'daub' to the process of patting mud on the fence. The species of acacia in [[Australia]] called wattle got their name because settlers found them most suitable for use as wattles. (cf [http://www.aussie-info.com/identity/flora/wattle.php] [http://www.worldwidewattle.com/schools/name.php])

			The use of wattle and daub extended far beyond [[medieval]] [[Europe]], for instance the pre-[[Columbus\|Columbian]] cultures of the [[America]]s.

			== Wattle fences and Wattle and Daub houses in [[12th century\|12th C]] [[Dublin]] ==

			===Posts===
			Some posts with fire hardened points, modern studies showed no anti-rotting benefit of this vertical posts- round, generally with bark still on, average spacing 15-30cm. Spacing is not bigger with bigger posts, but with a few very thin internal house walls it was smaller. Occasionally posts are paired, some could be repairs (unlikely - very awkward to insert), but many appear original, to strengthen weak points.
			The ends of posts adazed to rough points

			Posts extend 20-40cm below ground. But that may not be original reading (don't need to be that deep) - may have been weighted down by house roofs. They were hammered into position (not inserted in dug trenches).

			===Wattles===

			The size was somewhat dependent on size of posts.
			More lightweight walls - fences, walls as part of a double wall construction, used av 15-25mm diameter wattles. Heavy single house walls and other heavy uses, av 20-30mm. Thinner wattles required when posts closer together, or less gaps in weave required.
			Wattles most likely derived from long term coppising, especially the thicker ones.

			Woven behind every second post (i.e. in front, behind, in front, behind, etc)
			In one wall lowest 3 strands (and probably top 3 on some houses) plaited together as woven to form a cornice. This known from other locations ([[16th century\|16th C]] [[Flemish]], modern [[Ireland]]). The strip binds the ends together better, and was probably on a movable wall - more wear and tear.

			Figure-eight shaped knots of wattle found - probably used to bind tops of more roughly made walls, joins in fences and for simple joints. (similar shown in ''Lutrell psalter fl63b'') Fibres are probably twisted as worked - prevents snapping.

			In some cases Blackthorn was used as wattles in lower few rows of fences (not houses), possibly to deter vermin. [[Irish]] accounts ([[12th century\|12th C]] story ''Aislnge Meic Conglinne'', [[8th century\|8th C]] [[laws]]) mention crests of blackthorn on fences to deter [[animal]]s.

			''References:''
			* Murry, Hilary, 1983, "Viking and Early Medieval Buildings in Dublin" (BAR, Oxford) ISBN: 0-86054-235-1

			==Other uses==
			* Basicly NO other uses

			==Links:==
			* Poplar Cottage http://www.wealddown.co.uk/poplar-cottage-construction.htm - is a [[17th century\|17th C]] [[cottage]] constructed using wattle and daub, and also has some nice wattle fencing -
			http://www.wealddown.co.uk/poplar-cottage-gardens.htm
			*Winkhurst Kitchens http://www.wealddown.co.uk/winkhurst-reconstruction-dismantling.htm - a 16th C [[Kitchen]] outbuilding was deconstructed and moved. Here is a rare chance to see a genuine 16th C wall being pulled to pieces, and the wattles underneath.
			*wattle and daub in Wiltshire http://www.tonygraham.co.uk/house_repair/wattle_daub/WD.html - a masters thesis
			*links to examples including the [[Shakespeare]] house http://ah.bfn.org/a/DCTNRY/h/half.html
			*This site claims [[Roman]]s pre-fabricated wattle and daub walls - http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/frames.shtml?http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/MOLsite/exhibits/hslondon/construct/walls.htm
			*pictures of escavations of a wattle fence from a Medieval German friary - http://home.bawue.de/%7Ewmwerner/essling/english/karmel04.html

			[[category:architecture]]

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2007-10-25T12:56:49Z

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			hi mom
	'''Wattle and Daub''' is a simple construction method in which a fence is constructed by twining flexible sticks between (non-flexible) posts, and then covering the fence in mud. Wattle fencing is constructed in the same manner, but generally leaves off the mud.

	The name 'wattle' refers the flexible wooden sticks, not to a species of [[wood]], and 'daub' to the process of patting mud on the fence. The species of acacia in [[Australia]] called wattle got their name because settlers found them most suitable for use as wattles. (cf [http://www.aussie-info.com/identity/flora/wattle.php] [http://www.worldwidewattle.com/schools/name.php])

	The use of wattle and daub extended far beyond [[medieval]] [[Europe]], for instance the pre-[[Columbus\|Columbian]] cultures of the [[America]]s.

	== Wattle fences and Wattle and Daub houses in [[12th century\|12th C]] [[Dublin]] ==

	===Posts===
	Some posts with fire hardened points, modern studies showed no anti-rotting benefit of this vertical posts- round, generally with bark still on, average spacing 15-30cm. Spacing is not bigger with bigger posts, but with a few very thin internal house walls it was smaller. Occasionally posts are paired, some could be repairs (unlikely - very awkward to insert), but many appear original, to strengthen weak points.
	The ends of posts adazed to rough points

	Posts extend 20-40cm below ground. But that may not be original reading (don't need to be that deep) - may have been weighted down by house roofs. They were hammered into position (not inserted in dug trenches).

	===Wattles===

	The size was somewhat dependent on size of posts.
	More lightweight walls - fences, walls as part of a double wall construction, used av 15-25mm diameter wattles. Heavy single house walls and other heavy uses, av 20-30mm. Thinner wattles required when posts closer together, or less gaps in weave required.
	Wattles most likely derived from long term coppising, especially the thicker ones.

	Woven behind every second post (i.e. in front, behind, in front, behind, etc)
	In one wall lowest 3 strands (and probably top 3 on some houses) plaited together as woven to form a cornice. This known from other locations ([[16th century\|16th C]] [[Flemish]], modern [[Ireland]]). The strip binds the ends together better, and was probably on a movable wall - more wear and tear.

	Figure-eight shaped knots of wattle found - probably used to bind tops of more roughly made walls, joins in fences and for simple joints. (similar shown in ''Lutrell psalter fl63b'') Fibres are probably twisted as worked - prevents snapping.

	In some cases Blackthorn was used as wattles in lower few rows of fences (not houses), possibly to deter vermin. [[Irish]] accounts ([[12th century\|12th C]] story ''Aislnge Meic Conglinne'', [[8th century\|8th C]] [[laws]]) mention crests of blackthorn on fences to deter [[animal]]s.

	''References:''
	* Murry, Hilary, 1983, "Viking and Early Medieval Buildings in Dublin" (BAR, Oxford) ISBN: 0-86054-235-1

	==Other uses==
	* Basicly NO other uses

	==Links:==
	* Poplar Cottage http://www.wealddown.co.uk/poplar-cottage-construction.htm - is a [[17th century\|17th C]] [[cottage]] constructed using wattle and daub, and also has some nice wattle fencing -
	http://www.wealddown.co.uk/poplar-cottage-gardens.htm
	*Winkhurst Kitchens http://www.wealddown.co.uk/winkhurst-reconstruction-dismantling.htm - a 16th C [[Kitchen]] outbuilding was deconstructed and moved. Here is a rare chance to see a genuine 16th C wall being pulled to pieces, and the wattles underneath.
	*wattle and daub in Wiltshire http://www.tonygraham.co.uk/house_repair/wattle_daub/WD.html - a masters thesis
	*links to examples including the [[Shakespeare]] house http://ah.bfn.org/a/DCTNRY/h/half.html
	*This site claims [[Roman]]s pre-fabricated wattle and daub walls - http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/frames.shtml?http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/MOLsite/exhibits/hslondon/construct/walls.htm
	*pictures of escavations of a wattle fence from a Medieval German friary - http://home.bawue.de/%7Ewmwerner/essling/english/karmel04.html

	[[category:architecture]]

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	==Other uses==		==Other uses==
			* Basicly NO other uses
	*As a [[road]]way in bogs

	==Links:==		==Links:==

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	*links to examples including the [[Shakespeare]] house http://ah.bfn.org/a/DCTNRY/h/half.html		*links to examples including the [[Shakespeare]] house http://ah.bfn.org/a/DCTNRY/h/half.html
	*This site claims [[Roman]]s pre-fabricated wattle and daub walls - http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/frames.shtml?http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/MOLsite/exhibits/hslondon/construct/walls.htm		*This site claims [[Roman]]s pre-fabricated wattle and daub walls - http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/frames.shtml?http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/MOLsite/exhibits/hslondon/construct/walls.htm
			*pictures of escavations of a wattle fence from a Medieval German friary - http://home.bawue.de/%7Ewmwerner/essling/english/karmel04.html


	[[category:architecture]]		[[category:architecture]]