https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AVillanella 2026-04-08T16:52:42Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.39.3 https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Talk:Villanella&diff=26794&oldid=prev 2006-06-21T13:08:03Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:08, 21 June 2006</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I'm not sure I've seen anyone reconstruct this dance this way, other than Mistress Eleanor. I'd be interested to see the "archaeology" of this reconstruction. Every other reconstruction I've seen, the couple are facing each other. I can't see anything in the original of the text that supports this. This style of hand-hold is a fairly important point of discussion amongst various people. [[User:202.129.81.102|202.129.81.102]] 15:03, 14 Jun 2006 (EST)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I'm not sure I've seen anyone reconstruct this dance this way, other than Mistress Eleanor. I'd be interested to see the "archaeology" of this reconstruction. Every other reconstruction I've seen, the couple are facing each other. I can't see anything in the original of the text that supports this. This style of hand-hold is a fairly important point of discussion amongst various people. [[User:202.129.81.102|202.129.81.102]] 15:03, 14 Jun 2006 (EST)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Here is my archaeology, such as it is. I taught this dance from the [http://www.sca.org.au/del/ddb/sections/16th_c_italian_dance9.html version in Del's Dance Book] one night (I liked the "Contentezza lite" nature of the dance) and the instructions there said that at this point the couple should be holding both hands. When reconstructing the dance for Cunnan I went to the [http://jducoeur.org/IlBallarino/Book2/Villanella.html online translation]. Here is the translation for the third figure:</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The man alone has to do 2 Passi gravi and 1 Seguito ordinario, starting it with the left foot: the same he will do by opposite: ''then passing forward to the lady, he has to be put to her right hand, taking the right hand'', and doing together the Continenza, as of above, to the left, and 2 Riprese to the right, and the Riverenza with the left.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The italicised section I took to mean ''he has now moved in front of the lady and to her right hand side, he then takes her right hand''.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Just a quick question, by Mistress Eleanor, do you mean Adina Hamilton, on whose Del's reconstruction was based? If so I am having trouble reconciling what you have said with what is said in Del's dance book. [[User:Conrad Leviston|Conrad Leviston]] 23:08, 21 Jun 2006 (EST)</div></td> </tr> </table>

Conrad Leviston https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Talk:Villanella&diff=18433&oldid=prev 2006-06-14T05:03:45Z

<p></p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>&#039;&#039;He should now be facing up the hall, alongside the lady, and holding her right hand with his left.&#039;&#039;<br /> <br /> : I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve seen anyone reconstruct this dance this way, other than Mistress Eleanor. I&#039;d be interested to see the &quot;archaeology&quot; of this reconstruction. Every other reconstruction I&#039;ve seen, the couple are facing each other. I can&#039;t see anything in the original of the text that supports this. This style of hand-hold is a fairly important point of discussion amongst various people. [[User:202.129.81.102|202.129.81.102]] 15:03, 14 Jun 2006 (EST)</div>

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