https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ATitle 2026-04-04T10:04:00Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.39.3 https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Talk:Title&diff=23613&oldid=prev 2004-10-18T00:19:49Z

<p>title vs honorifics vs ????</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 11:19, 18 October 2004</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>My understanding is that a Duke's title is Duke, but his [[honorific]] is ''Your Grace''. Furthermore a Laurel's title is ''Master'', but his honorific is ''My Lord''. Before I act like a pedant and change this page I'd like to know if my understanding is correct. Any advice Cian?</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>My understanding is that a Duke's title is Duke, but his [[honorific]] is ''Your Grace''. Furthermore a Laurel's title is ''Master'', but his honorific is ''My Lord''. Before I act like a pedant and change this page I'd like to know if my understanding is correct. Any advice Cian?</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* :^) The way I have always been doing it is that a [[title]] or position can appear without the person's name e.g the President, the Duke, and may be asssociated with a particular role or area, eg. the US President, Financial Director, [[Earl]] of [[Cornwall]]. An [[honorific]] is something that is attached to the name but is not normally used elsewhere, e.g Mr, [[Sir]], Mrs, Dr, [[Master]]. I am not quite sure how "Your Grace" and "Her Royal Highness" fit in because grammatically they appear in a different place to the honorifics and behave differently, but can be used in isolation (ie. without the name and title). Therefore, I would probably place them in a third category. If anything, it is the form of address that you give them.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Of course, common usage may not try and place everything in nice neat boxes like that. What does HM [[Queen]] Elizabeth II's [[household]] designate they all are?</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:- [[User:Cian|Cian Gillebhrath]] 10:19, 18 Oct 2004 (EST)</div></td> </tr> </table>

Cian https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Talk:Title&diff=6673&oldid=prev 2004-10-16T04:53:59Z

<p>title v. honorific</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>My understanding is that a Duke&#039;s title is Duke, but his [[honorific]] is &#039;&#039;Your Grace&#039;&#039;. Furthermore a Laurel&#039;s title is &#039;&#039;Master&#039;&#039;, but his honorific is &#039;&#039;My Lord&#039;&#039;. Before I act like a pedant and change this page I&#039;d like to know if my understanding is correct. Any advice Cian?</div>

Conrad Leviston