Talk:Stains - Revision history

Daniel C. Boyer at 20:22, 15 December 2005

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	:My understanding of the other stains is that they were used in Continental heraldry. [[User:Conrad Leviston\|Conrad Leviston]] 19:30, 13 Dec 2005 (CST)		:My understanding of the other stains is that they were used in Continental heraldry. [[User:Conrad Leviston\|Conrad Leviston]] 19:30, 13 Dec 2005 (CST)

	::But they are not and never have been classified as "stains"! Sure, until very recent times (World War II in the case of Bleu Celeste, which for some reason caused it to surge in popularity) they had only very rare occurence in Continental history and no, if any, occurence in England or Scotland, but they were always recognised (if they were recongised as tinctures at all; some have still not been recognised outside a very narrow framework, as e.g. Rose which is a 1997 innovation of the Canadian Heraldic Authority and has not been recognised elsewhere) as colours, not stains, in period (to the extent that they existed therein, which some did not) as well as today.		::But they are not and never have been classified as "stains"! Sure, until very recent times (World War II in the case of Bleu Celeste, which for some reason caused it to surge in popularity) they had only very rare occurence in Continental history and no, if any, occurence in England or Scotland, but they were always recognised (if they were recongised as tinctures at all; some have still not been recognised outside a very narrow framework, as e.g. Rose which is a 1997 innovation of the Canadian Heraldic Authority and has not been recognised elsewhere) as colours, not stains, in period (to the extent that they existed therein, which some did not) as well as today. --[[User:Daniel C. Boyer\|Daniel C. Boyer]] 14:22, 15 Dec 2005 (CST)

Daniel C. Boyer at 20:18, 15 December 2005

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	I don't know of any precedent or justification for including stains beyond tenne, sanguine or murrey; the others are just very unusual colours, usually of later vintage than those typically given. --[[User:Daniel C. Boyer\|Daniel C. Boyer]] 10:24, 12 Dec 2005 (CST)		I don't know of any precedent or justification for including stains beyond tenne, sanguine or murrey; the others are just very unusual colours, usually of later vintage than those typically given. --[[User:Daniel C. Boyer\|Daniel C. Boyer]] 10:24, 12 Dec 2005 (CST)

	My understanding of the other stains is that they were used in Continental heraldry. [[User:Conrad Leviston\|Conrad Leviston]] 19:30, 13 Dec 2005 (CST)		:My understanding of the other stains is that they were used in Continental heraldry. [[User:Conrad Leviston\|Conrad Leviston]] 19:30, 13 Dec 2005 (CST)

			::But they are not and never have been classified as "stains"! Sure, until very recent times (World War II in the case of Bleu Celeste, which for some reason caused it to surge in popularity) they had only very rare occurence in Continental history and no, if any, occurence in England or Scotland, but they were always recognised (if they were recongised as tinctures at all; some have still not been recognised outside a very narrow framework, as e.g. Rose which is a 1997 innovation of the Canadian Heraldic Authority and has not been recognised elsewhere) as colours, not stains, in period (to the extent that they existed therein, which some did not) as well as today.

Conrad Leviston at 01:30, 14 December 2005

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	I don't know of any precedent or justification for including stains beyond tenne, sanguine or murrey; the others are just very unusual colours, usually of later vintage than those typically given. --[[User:Daniel C. Boyer\|Daniel C. Boyer]] 10:24, 12 Dec 2005 (CST)		I don't know of any precedent or justification for including stains beyond tenne, sanguine or murrey; the others are just very unusual colours, usually of later vintage than those typically given. --[[User:Daniel C. Boyer\|Daniel C. Boyer]] 10:24, 12 Dec 2005 (CST)

			My understanding of the other stains is that they were used in Continental heraldry. [[User:Conrad Leviston\|Conrad Leviston]] 19:30, 13 Dec 2005 (CST)

Daniel C. Boyer at 16:24, 12 December 2005

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I don't know of any precedent or justification for including stains beyond tenne, sanguine or murrey; the others are just very unusual colours, usually of later vintage than those typically given. --[[User:Daniel C. Boyer|Daniel C. Boyer]] 10:24, 12 Dec 2005 (CST)