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		<title>Paul Matisz at 16:50, 13 July 2008</title>
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		<updated>2008-07-13T16:50:10Z</updated>

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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 02:50, 14 July 2008&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:In the Kingdom Law of [[An Tir]], &quot;Territorial Barons&quot; are much listed as much higher than &quot;Barons of the Court&quot; -- Territorial Barons occupying the 10th position, just beneath Viscounts, Court Barons the 15th (former landed) and 16th (court appointed) positions, below &quot;Holders of Grants of Arms&quot;. [http://www.antir.sca.org/Pubs/Laws/kingdomonly.pdf Kingdom Law of An Tir PDF]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:In the Kingdom Law of [[An Tir]], &quot;Territorial Barons&quot; are much listed as much higher than &quot;Barons of the Court&quot; -- Territorial Barons occupying the 10th position, just beneath Viscounts, Court Barons the 15th (former landed) and 16th (court appointed) positions, below &quot;Holders of Grants of Arms&quot;. [http://www.antir.sca.org/Pubs/Laws/kingdomonly.pdf Kingdom Law of An Tir PDF]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The OoP of [[Caid]], however, lists court and territorial Barons together just below the [[Peer]]age Orders. [http://herald.sca-caid.org/op/trueop080607.zip Caidan OoP PDF]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The OoP of [[Caid]], however, lists court and territorial Barons together just below the [[Peer]]age Orders. [http://herald.sca-caid.org/op/trueop080607.zip Caidan OoP PDF]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I begin to suspect that the placement of Territorial Barons, former Territorial Barons and Barons of the Court are subject to [[InterKingdom Anthropology]] as individual Kingdoms maintain their own OoPs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I begin to suspect that the placement of Territorial Barons, former Territorial Barons and Barons of the Court are subject to [[InterKingdom Anthropology]] as individual Kingdoms maintain their own OoPs.&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;  [[User:Paul Matisz]] 07/10/08 21:54 EST&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::Just found the [[Ealdormere]] OoP -- Territorial Barons are listed just below the Peerage Orders, but above Barons of the Court.  Also corrected the previously dead link in the article. [[User:Paul Matisz]] 07/13/08 12:50 EST&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>Paul Matisz</name></author>
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		<title>Paul Matisz at 01:54, 11 July 2008</title>
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		<updated>2008-07-11T01:54:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 11:54, 11 July 2008&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The OoP of [[Caid]], however, lists court and territorial Barons together just below the [[Peer]]age Orders. [http://herald.sca-caid.org/op/trueop080607.zip Caidan OoP PDF]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The OoP of [[Caid]], however, lists court and territorial Barons together just below the [[Peer]]age Orders. [http://herald.sca-caid.org/op/trueop080607.zip Caidan OoP PDF]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I begin to suspect that the placement of Territorial Barons, former Territorial Barons and Barons of the Court are subject to [[InterKingdom Anthropology]] as individual Kingdoms maintain their own OoPs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I begin to suspect that the placement of Territorial Barons, former Territorial Barons and Barons of the Court are subject to [[InterKingdom Anthropology]] as individual Kingdoms maintain their own OoPs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>Paul Matisz at 01:53, 11 July 2008</title>
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		<updated>2008-07-11T01:53:53Z</updated>

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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 11:53, 11 July 2008&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I am not sure where you would say that [[Court Baron]] and Baronesses go in a normal OoA. Certainly, territorial B&amp;amp;Bs beat [[Peer]]s, but what about Court B&amp;amp;Bs? Are they normally [[Grant of Arms|grant-level]] [[award]]s? - [[User:Cian|Cian Gillebhrath]] 09:38, 11 July 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I am not sure where you would say that [[Court Baron]] and Baronesses go in a normal OoA. Certainly, territorial B&amp;amp;Bs beat [[Peer]]s, but what about Court B&amp;amp;Bs? Are they normally [[Grant of Arms|grant-level]] [[award]]s? - [[User:Cian|Cian Gillebhrath]] 09:38, 11 July 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-empty diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:In the Kingdom Law of [[An Tir]], &quot;Territorial Barons&quot; are much listed as much higher than &quot;Barons of the Court&quot; -- Territorial Barons occupying the 10th position, just beneath Viscounts, Court Barons the 15th (former landed) and 16th (court appointed) positions, below &quot;Holders of Grants of Arms&quot;. [http://www.antir.sca.org/Pubs/Laws/kingdomonly.pdf Kingdom Law of An Tir PDF]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-empty diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The OoP of [[Caid]], however, lists court and territorial Barons together just below the [[Peer]]age Orders. [http://herald.sca-caid.org/op/trueop080607.zip Caidan OoP PDF]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/tr&gt;
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  &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-empty diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I begin to suspect that the placement of Territorial Barons, former Territorial Barons and Barons of the Court are subject to [[InterKingdom Anthropology]] as individual Kingdoms maintain their own OoPs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>Paul Matisz</name></author>
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		<title>Cian: court barons</title>
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		<updated>2008-07-10T23:38:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;court barons&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I am not sure where you would say that [[Court Baron]] and Baronesses go in a normal OoA. Certainly, territorial B&amp;amp;Bs beat [[Peer]]s, but what about Court B&amp;amp;Bs? Are they normally [[Grant of Arms|grant-level]] [[award]]s? - [[User:Cian|Cian Gillebhrath]] 09:38, 11 July 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Cian</name></author>
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