Talk:Buckler - Revision history

User 144 at 10:32, 26 February 2007

2007-02-26T10:32:41Z

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	Another type of buckler is the "dog-dish" buckler, which has an umbo surrounded by a rim that is curved (or bent) sharply forward.		Another type of buckler is the "dog-dish" buckler, which has an umbo surrounded by a rim that is curved (or bent) sharply forward.

			Pretty sure that "shield boss" is simply a modern term for an umbo and no distinction was made in history between separate and integral bosses. You are right onthe square bucklers, but I was thinking more on the odd round, flat bucklers some SCAdians and reenactors use.--[[User:User 144\|User 144]] 21:32, 26 February 2007 (EST)

2007-02-26T09:56:42Z

boss ... umbo?

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	Thought so. I couldn't of any examples outside of the SCA of bossless bucklers. On their use, I always remember the advice a well known WMA told me, "Fighting badly is still period".--[[User:User 144\|User 144]] 12:33, 23 July 2006 (EST)		Thought so. I couldn't of any examples outside of the SCA of bossless bucklers. On their use, I always remember the advice a well known WMA told me, "Fighting badly is still period".--[[User:User 144\|User 144]] 12:33, 23 July 2006 (EST)

			== boss ... umbo? ==

			Hmm... I've always thought of a "boss" as something that is fabricated separately from the shield, and then attached to it with rivets. At the same time, I've always thought an "umbo" (look it up) was a boss-like projection dished into the main plate of the buckler.

			Sorry, I can't provide any documentation for that notion, so it may be totally erroneous.

			"Boss-less buckler"? Well, there is the "Marozzo buckler", "Spada e Targe" or "Wavy buckler" (see http://www.thearma.org/essays/SwordandBucklerP2.htm ) which is more like a small rectangular shield with a shallow "W" cross section. Somewhat like a small pavise.

			Another type of buckler is the "dog-dish" buckler, which has an umbo surrounded by a rim that is curved (or bent) sharply forward.

2006-07-23T02:33:28Z

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			Thought so. I couldn't of any examples outside of the SCA of bossless bucklers. On their use, I always remember the advice a well known WMA told me, "Fighting badly is still period".--[[User:User 144\|User 144]] 12:33, 23 July 2006 (EST)

2006-07-22T21:05:34Z

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	I don't think so -- a buckler is a small, all-metal shield -- by early-period standards, a bucker pretty much ''is'' a boss.		I don't think so -- a buckler is a small, all-metal shield -- by early-period standards, a bucker pretty much ''is'' a boss.

	Basically, it's a metal soup plate with a ~~handle~~ -- although, as any fencer will tell you, it's used in an extremely different fashion from a centre-boss shield.		Basically, it's a metal soup plate with a grip inside -- although, as any fencer will tell you, it's used in an extremely different fashion from a centre-boss shield.

	[[User:Paul Matisz]] 17:06EST 22/07/2006		[[User:Paul Matisz]] 17:06EST 22/07/2006

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	Does anyone know of a buckler that didn't have a boss? I can't think of an example.--[[User:User 144\|User 144]] 10:03, 22 July 2006 (EST)		Does anyone know of a buckler that didn't have a boss? I can't think of an example.--[[User:User 144\|User 144]] 10:03, 22 July 2006 (EST)

			== Bosses ==
	I don't think so -- a buckler is a small, all-metal shield -- by early-period standards, a bucker pretty much ''is'' a boss.		I don't think so -- a buckler is a small, all-metal shield -- by early-period standards, a bucker pretty much ''is'' a boss.

2006-07-22T21:04:32Z

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	Does anyone know of a buckler that didn't have a boss? I can't think of an example.--[[User:User 144\|User 144]] 10:03, 22 July 2006 (EST)		Does anyone know of a buckler that didn't have a boss? I can't think of an example.--[[User:User 144\|User 144]] 10:03, 22 July 2006 (EST)

			I don't think so -- a buckler is a small, all-metal shield -- by early-period standards, a bucker pretty much ''is'' a boss.

			Basically, it's a metal soup plate with a handle -- although, as any fencer will tell you, it's used in an extremely different fashion from a centre-boss shield.

			[[User:Paul Matisz]] 17:06EST 22/07/2006

2006-07-22T00:03:14Z

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Does anyone know of a buckler that didn't have a boss? I can't think of an example.--[[User:User 144|User 144]] 10:03, 22 July 2006 (EST)