Point of difference - Revision history

Paul Matisz at 13:06, 23 August 2008

2008-08-23T13:06:31Z

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	A '''Point of Difference''' is an [[SCA]] term for a distinct difference in [[heraldry\|heraldic display]]. New SCA [[arms]] must display two points of difference from any other extant SCA arms in order to be registered. This is based loosely on the amount of change seen in period heraldry between non-related persons. The rules for [[conflict checking]] can be complex, but some of the ways to create difference in a device are:		A '''Point of Difference''' is an [[SCA]] term for a distinct difference in [[heraldry\|heraldic display]].

			===Complex Heraldry===
			Most new SCA [[arms]] must display '''two''' points of difference from any other extant SCA arms in order to be registered. This is based loosely on the amount of change seen in period heraldry between non-related persons and helps prevent confusion or [[presumption]].

			The rules for [[conflict checking]] can be complex, but some of the ways to create difference in a device are:
	* Add or remove a [[charge]] group		* Add or remove a [[charge]] group
	* Change the [[tincture]] of a charge group		* Change the [[tincture]] of a charge group
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	For example, ''[[Argent]] a [[dragon]] [[gules]]'' has two clear differences from ''[[Or]] a dragon [[vert]]''. ''[[Vert]] a [[dragon]] [[argent]]'' has only one clear difference from ''[[Per pale]] [[azure]] and [[gules]], a [[dragon]] [[argent]]''		For example, ''[[Argent]] a [[dragon]] [[gules]]'' has two clear differences from ''[[Or]] a dragon [[vert]]''. ''[[Vert]] a [[dragon]] [[argent]]'' has only one clear difference from ''[[Per pale]] [[azure]] and [[gules]], a [[dragon]] [[argent]]''

			===Simple Heraldry===
	In ~~some~~ ~~cases~~, ~~when~~ a device is considered [[simple heraldry]], only the type of primary charges needs to be changed to clear conflict, even if this means there is a single point of difference.		The exception to the "two points of difference rule is [[simple heraldry]]. Simple heraldry is uncomplex, often consisting of a single [[charge]] or group of charges on a [[field]] with only the most basic of [[Line divisions\|divisions]]. When a device is considered [[simple heraldry]], only the type of primary charges needs to be changed to clear conflict, even if this means there is but a single point of difference.

	On rare occasions, clear differences are trumped by a visual conflict. This is related to guidelines sometimes referred to as the [[ten foot rule]], in that the points of difference must be obvious from a distance of ten feet.		On rare occasions, clear differences are trumped by a visual conflict. This is related to guidelines sometimes referred to as the [[ten foot rule]], in that the points of difference must be obvious from a distance of ten feet.

Cian: category

2006-10-02T00:00:08Z

Cian at 23:59, 1 October 2006

2006-10-01T23:59:23Z

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	A '''Point of Difference''' is an [[SCA]] term for a distinct difference in [[heraldry\|heraldic display]]. New SCA [[arms]] must display two points of difference from any other extant SCA arms in order to be registered. This is based loosely on the amount of change seen in period heraldry between non-related persons. The rules for [[conflict checking]] can be complex, but some of the ways to create difference in a device are:		A '''Point of Difference''' is an [[SCA]] term for a distinct difference in [[heraldry\|heraldic display]]. New SCA [[arms]] must display two points of difference from any other extant SCA arms in order to be registered. This is based loosely on the amount of change seen in period heraldry between non-related persons. The rules for [[conflict checking]] can be complex, but some of the ways to create difference in a device are:

	* Add or remove a [[charge]] group		* Add or remove a [[charge]] group
	* Change the [[tincture]] of a charge group		* Change the [[tincture]] of a charge group
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	* Change the field		* Change the field
	* Change the [[posture]] or position of a charge when applicable		* Change the [[posture]] or position of a charge when applicable


	In most cases, charges are cumulative. The exceptions are field changes and changes to tertiary charges, for which only one difference can be derived even with multiple changes.		In most cases, charges are cumulative. The exceptions are field changes and changes to tertiary charges, for which only one difference can be derived even with multiple changes.


	For example, ''[[Argent]] a [[dragon]] [[gules]]'' has two clear differences from ''[[Or]] a dragon [[vert]]''. ''[[Vert]] a [[dragon]] [[argent]]'' has only one clear difference from ''[[Per pale]] [[azure]] and [[gules]], a [[dragon]] [[argent]]''		For example, ''[[Argent]] a [[dragon]] [[gules]]'' has two clear differences from ''[[Or]] a dragon [[vert]]''. ''[[Vert]] a [[dragon]] [[argent]]'' has only one clear difference from ''[[Per pale]] [[azure]] and [[gules]], a [[dragon]] [[argent]]''



	In some cases, when a device is considered [[simple heraldry]], only the type of primary charges needs to be changed to clear conflict, even if this means there is a single point of difference.		In some cases, when a device is considered [[simple heraldry]], only the type of primary charges needs to be changed to clear conflict, even if this means there is a single point of difference.


	On rare occasions, clear differences are trumped by a visual conflict. This is related to guidelines sometimes referred to as the [[ten foot rule]], in that the points of difference must be obvious from a distance of ten feet.		On rare occasions, clear differences are trumped by a visual conflict. This is related to guidelines sometimes referred to as the [[ten foot rule]], in that the points of difference must be obvious from a distance of ten feet.

	[[category:device heraldry]] [[category:heraldry]]		[[category:device heraldry]] [[category:heraldry]]
	[[category:SCAism]]

User 144 at 23:36, 30 September 2006

2006-09-30T23:36:42Z

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	[[category:device heraldry]] [[category:heraldry]]		[[category:device heraldry]] [[category:heraldry]]
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Sabine: added accurate info

2006-09-29T19:50:56Z

added accurate info

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	A '''Point of Difference''' is an [[SCA]] term for a distinct difference in [[heraldry\|heraldic display]]. SCA [[arms]] must display two points of difference from any other extant SCA arms. ~~Colour~~ ~~change~~ ~~(even~~ if ~~more~~ ~~than~~ ~~one~~ ~~[[colour]]~~ is ~~changed)~~ ~~only~~ ~~counts~~ as a ~~single~~ ~~point~~ of ~~difference~~. In ~~some~~ ~~[[kingdom]]s~~ [[~~simple~~ ~~heraldry~~]] ~~requires~~ ~~only~~ a ~~single~~ ~~point~~ of difference.		A '''Point of Difference''' is an [[SCA]] term for a distinct difference in [[heraldry\|heraldic display]]. New SCA [[arms]] must display two points of difference from any other extant SCA arms in order to be registered. This is based loosely on the amount of change seen in period heraldry between non-related persons. The rules for [[conflict checking]] can be complex, but some of the ways to create difference in a device are:

			* Add or remove a [[charge]] group
	For example, ''[[argent]] a [[dragon]] [[gules]]'' can be changed to ''[[OR]] a dragon [[vert]]'' as a single point of difference. ''Argent a dragon vert in [[chief]] [[gules]] three [[escallop]]s argent'' meets the two points of difference requirement from the first example.
			* Change the [[tincture]] of a charge group
			* Add a peripheral [[ordinary]]
			* Change the field
			* Change the [[posture]] or position of a charge when applicable


⚫	This is related to the [[ten foot rule]], in that the points of difference must be obvious from a distance of ten feet.
			In most cases, charges are cumulative. The exceptions are field changes and changes to tertiary charges, for which only one difference can be derived even with multiple changes.


			For example, ''[[Argent]] a [[dragon]] [[gules]]'' has two clear differences from ''[[Or]] a dragon [[vert]]''. ''[[Vert]] a [[dragon]] [[argent]]'' has only one clear difference from ''[[Per pale]] [[azure]] and [[gules]], a [[dragon]] [[argent]]''



			In some cases, when a device is considered [[simple heraldry]], only the type of primary charges needs to be changed to clear conflict, even if this means there is a single point of difference.


		⚫	On rare occasions, clear differences are trumped by a visual conflict. This is related to guidelines sometimes referred to as the [[ten foot rule]], in that the points of difference must be obvious from a distance of ten feet.

	[[category:device heraldry]] [[category:heraldry]]		[[category:device heraldry]] [[category:heraldry]]

Paul Matisz at 19:29, 2 May 2006

2006-05-02T19:29:17Z

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	A '''Point of Difference''' is an [[SCA]] term for a distinct difference in [[heraldry\|heraldic display]]. SCA [[arms]] must display two points of difference from any other extant SCA arms. Colour change (even if more than one [[colour]] is changed) only counts as a single point of difference. In some [[kingdom]]s [[simple heraldry]] requires only a single point of difference.		A '''Point of Difference''' is an [[SCA]] term for a distinct difference in [[heraldry\|heraldic display]]. SCA [[arms]] must display two points of difference from any other extant SCA arms. Colour change (even if more than one [[colour]] is changed) only counts as a single point of difference. In some [[kingdom]]s [[simple heraldry]] requires only a single point of difference.

	For example, ''[[argent] a [[dragon]] [[gules]]'' can be changed to ''[[OR]] a dragon [[vert]]'' as a single point of difference. ''Argent a dragon vert in [[chief]] [[gules]] three [[escallop]]s argent'' meets the two points of difference requirement from the first example.		For example, ''[[argent]] a [[dragon]] [[gules]]'' can be changed to ''[[OR]] a dragon [[vert]]'' as a single point of difference. ''Argent a dragon vert in [[chief]] [[gules]] three [[escallop]]s argent'' meets the two points of difference requirement from the first example.

	This is related to the [[ten foot rule]], in that the points of difference must be obvious from a distance of ten feet.		This is related to the [[ten foot rule]], in that the points of difference must be obvious from a distance of ten feet.

Paul Matisz at 19:29, 2 May 2006

2006-05-02T19:29:03Z

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A '''Point of Difference''' is an [[SCA]] term for a distinct difference in [[heraldry|heraldic display]]. SCA [[arms]] must display two points of difference from any other extant SCA arms. Colour change (even if more than one [[colour]] is changed) only counts as a single point of difference. In some [[kingdom]]s [[simple heraldry]] requires only a single point of difference.

For example, ''[[argent] a [[dragon]] [[gules]]'' can be changed to ''[[OR]] a dragon [[vert]]'' as a single point of difference. ''Argent a dragon vert in [[chief]] [[gules]] three [[escallop]]s argent'' meets the two points of difference requirement from the first example.

This is related to the [[ten foot rule]], in that the points of difference must be obvious from a distance of ten feet.

[[category:device heraldry]] [[category:heraldry]]

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	On rare occasions, clear differences are trumped by a visual conflict. This is related to guidelines sometimes referred to as the [[ten foot rule]], in that the points of difference must be obvious from a distance of ten feet.		On rare occasions, clear differences are trumped by a visual conflict. This is related to guidelines sometimes referred to as the [[ten foot rule]], in that the points of difference must be obvious from a distance of ten feet.

	[[category:device heraldry]] [[category:heraldry]]		[[category:device heraldry]] [[category:heraldry]][[category:SCAism]]