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	== Human Names ==		== Human Names ==
	Human names tend to use combinations of the following:		Human names tend to use combinations of the following:
	* ~~first~~ (or [[Christian]]) names		* '''First (or [[Christian]]) names'''
	:e.g. Ingrid, Michael, Giovanni, Ivan, Catherine, Tomas		:e.g. Ingrid, Michael, Giovanni, Ivan, Catherine, Tomas

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	:An occupational byname can be a good way to incorporate your hobby, vocation, or an activity that interests you, in your [[SCA_name\|SCA name]].		:An occupational byname can be a good way to incorporate your hobby, vocation, or an activity that interests you, in your [[SCA_name\|SCA name]].

	* ~~Clan~~ or family affilation		* '''Surnames of clan or family affilation'''
	:e.g. O'Brien, MacNaughton, di Medici		:e.g. O'Brien, MacNaughton, di Medici

	Which specific names and types of bynames are appropriate for you depends entirely on what you are trying to re-create. The most important factors are the time, place, and culture you want to re-create, but your gender and class are important, too. Not all types of surname were used in all cultures -- many early medieval cultures used no surnames at all. ~~Modern~~ naming customs are ~~generally '''~~not~~'''~~ a good guide to [[medieval]] naming customs. For example, the [[Spanish]] custom of multiple given names and compound surnames refering to your mother and father did not come into general use until well after our period.		Which specific names and types of bynames are appropriate for you depends entirely on what you are trying to re-create. The most important factors are the time, place, and culture you want to re-create, but your gender and class are important, too. Not all types of surname were used in all cultures -- many early medieval cultures used no surnames at all. Some modern naming customs are not a good guide to [[medieval]] naming customs. For example, the [[Spanish]] custom of multiple given names and compound surnames refering to your mother and father did not come into general use until well after our period. However, the modern practice of inherited surnames (that is, using the same surname as one's parent) is well-documented within our period.

	See also:		See also:

KarenLarsdatter: /* Human Names */

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	:e.g. Ingrid, Michael, Giovanni, Ivan, Catherine, Tomas		:e.g. Ingrid, Michael, Giovanni, Ivan, Catherine, Tomas

	:~~In early [[period]],~~ Christians tended to take names from the New Testament or [[saint]]s. Names from the Old Testament (Abraham, Isaac, Moses) were considered the province of [[Jew]]s, although there were of course exceptions. There are occasional instances of girls being given the names of [[flower]]s or [[gemstone\|precious stones]] (e.g. [[Rose]], [[Emerald]]) but these are unusual until very late in period when the influence of classical literature by way of the [[Renaissance]] even occasionally resulted in use of a [[pagan]] deity name (e.g. Diane de Poitiers).		:Christians tended to take names from the [[Wikipedia:New_Testament\|New Testament]] or [[saint]]s. Names from the [[Wikipedia:Old_Testament\|Old Testament]] (Abraham, Isaac, Moses) were considered the province of [[Jew]]s, although there were of course exceptions. There are occasional instances of girls being given the names of [[flower]]s or [[gemstone\|precious stones]] (e.g. [[Rose]], [[Emerald]]) but these are unusual until very late in period when the influence of classical literature by way of the [[Renaissance]] even occasionally resulted in use of a [[pagan]] deity name (e.g. [[Wikipedia:Diane_de_Poitiers\|Diane de Poitiers]]).

	* '''Locative surnames''' incorporate some aspect of where an individual lives or comes from.		* '''Locative surnames''' incorporate some aspect of where an individual lives or comes from.
	:e.g John of [[London]] ([[English]]), Jhonne [[Glasgow]] ([[Scottish]]), Jehan de [[Paris]] ([[French]]), ~~Gunther~~ von Augsberg ([[German]]), Juan de Burgos ([[Spanish]]). These can also be descriptive, such as the English surnames ''Fleming'' (meaning a person from [[Flanders]]) or ''Wallace'' (meaning a person from [[Wales]]).		:e.g John of [[London]] ([[English]]), Jhonne [[Glasgow]] ([[Scottish]]), Jehan de [[Paris]] ([[French]]), Johann von Augsberg ([[German]]), Juan de Burgos ([[Spanish]]). These can also be descriptive, such as the English surnames ''Fleming'' (meaning a person from [[Flanders]]) or ''Wallace'' (meaning a person from [[Wales]]).
	:Another type of locative surname is a [[Wikipedia:Toponymy\|toponym]], in which a person is named for a natural feature (such as ''Hill'', ''Shore'', or ''Field'') or an artificial field (such as ''Bridge'', ''Church'', or ''Wall'').		:Another type of locative surname is a [[Wikipedia:Toponymy\|toponym]], in which a person is named for a natural feature (such as ''Hill'', ''Shore'', or ''Field'') or an artificial field (such as ''Bridge'', ''Church'', or ''Wall'').

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	:In early [[period]], Christians tended to take names from the New Testament or [[saint]]s. Names from the Old Testament (Abraham, Isaac, Moses) were considered the province of [[Jew]]s, although there were of course exceptions. There are occasional instances of girls being given the names of [[flower]]s or [[gemstone\|precious stones]] (e.g. [[Rose]], [[Emerald]]) but these are unusual until very late in period when the influence of classical literature by way of the [[Renaissance]] even occasionally resulted in use of a [[pagan]] deity name (e.g. Diane de Poitiers).		:In early [[period]], Christians tended to take names from the New Testament or [[saint]]s. Names from the Old Testament (Abraham, Isaac, Moses) were considered the province of [[Jew]]s, although there were of course exceptions. There are occasional instances of girls being given the names of [[flower]]s or [[gemstone\|precious stones]] (e.g. [[Rose]], [[Emerald]]) but these are unusual until very late in period when the influence of classical literature by way of the [[Renaissance]] even occasionally resulted in use of a [[pagan]] deity name (e.g. Diane de Poitiers).

			* '''Locative surnames''' incorporate some aspect of where an individual lives or comes from.
	* 'Locatives'
	:e.g John of [[London]] ([[English]]), Jhonne [[Glasgow]] ([[Scottish]]), Jehan de [[Paris]] ([[French]]), Gunther von Augsberg ([[German]]), Juan de Burgos ([[Spanish]]). These can also be descriptive, such as the English surnames ''Fleming'' (meaning a person from [[Flanders]]) or ''Wallace'' (meaning a person from [[Wales]]).		:e.g John of [[London]] ([[English]]), Jhonne [[Glasgow]] ([[Scottish]]), Jehan de [[Paris]] ([[French]]), Gunther von Augsberg ([[German]]), Juan de Burgos ([[Spanish]]). These can also be descriptive, such as the English surnames ''Fleming'' (meaning a person from [[Flanders]]) or ''Wallace'' (meaning a person from [[Wales]]).
	:Another type of locative surname is a [[Wikipedia:Toponymy\|toponym]], in which a person is named for a natural feature (such as ''Hill'', ''Shore'', or ''Field'') or an artificial field (such as ''Bridge'', ''Church'', or ''Wall'').		:Another type of locative surname is a [[Wikipedia:Toponymy\|toponym]], in which a person is named for a natural feature (such as ''Hill'', ''Shore'', or ''Field'') or an artificial field (such as ''Bridge'', ''Church'', or ''Wall'').

	* Patronymic/Matronymic ~~(citing~~ ~~your~~ father or mother)		* '''Patronymic/Matronymic surnames''' cite one's father's or mother's name.
	:e.g. Thorvaldr Thorgeirsson ([[Norse]]), Bernardo di Vincenzo ([[Italian]]), Boris Ivanovich ([[Russian]]), Ifor ap Dafydd (Cymraeg/[[Welsh]]), Sean U Neill ([[Irish]]), John FitzGilbert ([[Norman]]~~--often, but not always (see below) an indicator of illegitimacy)~~		:e.g. Thorvaldr Thorgeirsson ([[Norse]]), Bernardo di Vincenzo ([[Italian]]), Boris Ivanovich ([[Russian]]), Ifor ap Dafydd (Cymraeg/[[Welsh]]), Sean U Neill ([[Irish]]), John FitzGilbert ([[Norman]]

	:Depending on the culture, women would use differentiating terminology to indicate "daughter of":		:Depending on the culture, women would use differentiating terminology to indicate "daughter of":
	:e.g. Sigrid Njalsdatter ([[Norse]]), Ceinwen ferch Llewellyn (~~Cymraeg/~~[[Welsh]]), Aine inghean Sheain ([[Irish]]), Natasha Ivanova ([[Russian]])		:e.g. Sigrid Njalsdatter ([[Norse]]), Ceinwen ferch Llewellyn ([[Welsh]]), Aine inghean Sheain ([[Irish]]), Natasha Ivanova ([[Russian]])

	:One of the best-known examples of a ''matronymic'' is that of [[King]] [[Henry II]] of [[England]], who was also known as Henry ~~FitzEmpress~~ (his mother was the widow of the [[Holy Roman Emperor]] and continued to use the [[title]] [[Empress (Matilda)\|Empress]] even after she'd married his father, [[Count]] Geoffrey of Anjou. ~~Henry was ''not'' illegitimate!~~).		:One of the best-known examples of a ''matronymic'' is that of [[King]] [[Henry II]] of [[England]], who was also known as Henry Fitzempress (his mother was the widow of the [[Holy Roman Emperor]] and continued to use the [[title]] [[Empress (Matilda)\|Empress]] even after she'd married his father, [[Count]] Geoffrey of Anjou.).

	:To further confound naming practices, Henry adopted his father's nickname, [[Plantagenet]] (due to his habit of wearing a sprig of Planta Genesta (common broom) in his hat) as the name of his [[dynasty]].		:To further confound naming practices, Henry adopted his father's nickname, [[Plantagenet]] (due to his habit of wearing a sprig of Planta Genesta (common broom) in his hat) as the name of his [[dynasty]].

			* '''Nicknames''' are a type of surname which describes some aspect of the individual -- often a physical attribute or characteristic.
⚫	* Clan or family affilation
⚫	:e.g. O'Brien, MacNaughton, di Medici
	* Nicknames
	:e.g. John Longshanks, Eric the Red, Vlad Dracule		:e.g. John Longshanks, Eric the Red, Vlad Dracule

	* Occupational bynames
			* '''Occupational surnames''' describe what the individual does for a living.
	:e.g. Thomas Wheeler, John Cooper, Edward Carpenter, William Chandler		:e.g. Thomas Wheeler, John Cooper, Edward Carpenter, William Chandler
	:An occupational byname can be a good way to incorporate your hobby, vocation, or an activity that interests you, in your [[SCA_name\|SCA name]].		:An occupational byname can be a good way to incorporate your hobby, vocation, or an activity that interests you, in your [[SCA_name\|SCA name]].

		⚫	* Clan or family affilation
		⚫	:e.g. O'Brien, MacNaughton, di Medici

	Which specific names and types of bynames are appropriate for you depends entirely on what you are trying to re-create. The most important factors are the time, place, and culture you want to re-create, but your gender and class are important, too. Not all types of surname were used in all cultures -- many early medieval cultures used no surnames at all. Modern naming customs are generally '''not''' a good guide to [[medieval]] naming customs. For example, the [[Spanish]] custom of multiple given names and compound surnames refering to your mother and father did not come into general use until well after our period.		Which specific names and types of bynames are appropriate for you depends entirely on what you are trying to re-create. The most important factors are the time, place, and culture you want to re-create, but your gender and class are important, too. Not all types of surname were used in all cultures -- many early medieval cultures used no surnames at all. Modern naming customs are generally '''not''' a good guide to [[medieval]] naming customs. For example, the [[Spanish]] custom of multiple given names and compound surnames refering to your mother and father did not come into general use until well after our period.

KarenLarsdatter: /* Human Names */

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Human Names

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	:In early [[period]], Christians tended to take names from the New Testament or [[saint]]s. Names from the Old Testament (Abraham, Isaac, Moses) were considered the province of [[Jew]]s, although there were of course exceptions. There are occasional instances of girls being given the names of [[flower]]s or [[gemstone\|precious stones]] (e.g. [[Rose]], [[Emerald]]) but these are unusual until very late in period when the influence of classical literature by way of the [[Renaissance]] even occasionally resulted in use of a [[pagan]] deity name (e.g. Diane de Poitiers).		:In early [[period]], Christians tended to take names from the New Testament or [[saint]]s. Names from the Old Testament (Abraham, Isaac, Moses) were considered the province of [[Jew]]s, although there were of course exceptions. There are occasional instances of girls being given the names of [[flower]]s or [[gemstone\|precious stones]] (e.g. [[Rose]], [[Emerald]]) but these are unusual until very late in period when the influence of classical literature by way of the [[Renaissance]] even occasionally resulted in use of a [[pagan]] deity name (e.g. Diane de Poitiers).

	* Locatives		* 'Locatives'
	:e.g John of [[London]] ([[English]]), Jhonne [[Glasgow]] ([[Scottish]]), Jehan de [[Paris]] ([[French]]), Gunther von Augsberg ([[German]]), Juan de Burgos ([[Spanish]]). These can also be descriptive, such as the English surnames ''Fleming'' (meaning a person from [[Flanders]]) or ''Wallace'' (meaning a person from [[Wales]]).		:e.g John of [[London]] ([[English]]), Jhonne [[Glasgow]] ([[Scottish]]), Jehan de [[Paris]] ([[French]]), Gunther von Augsberg ([[German]]), Juan de Burgos ([[Spanish]]). These can also be descriptive, such as the English surnames ''Fleming'' (meaning a person from [[Flanders]]) or ''Wallace'' (meaning a person from [[Wales]]).
	:Another type of locative surname is a [[Wikipedia:Toponymy\|toponym]], in which a person is named for a natural feature (such as ''Hill'', ''Shore'', or ''Field'') or an artificial field (such as ''Bridge'', ''Church'', or ''Wall'').		:Another type of locative surname is a [[Wikipedia:Toponymy\|toponym]], in which a person is named for a natural feature (such as ''Hill'', ''Shore'', or ''Field'') or an artificial field (such as ''Bridge'', ''Church'', or ''Wall'').
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	* Occupational bynames		* Occupational bynames
	:e.g. Thomas Wheeler, John Cooper, Edward Carpenter, William Chandler		:e.g. Thomas Wheeler, John Cooper, Edward Carpenter, William Chandler
			:An occupational byname can be a good way to incorporate your hobby, vocation, or an activity that interests you, in your [[SCA_name\|SCA name]].

	Which specific names and types of bynames are appropriate for you depends entirely on what you are trying to re-create. The most important factors are the time, place, and culture you want to re-create, but your gender and class are important, too. Not all types of surname were used in all cultures -- many early medieval cultures used no surnames at all. Modern naming customs are generally '''not''' a good guide to [[medieval]] naming customs. For example, the [[Spanish]] custom of multiple given names and compound surnames refering to your mother and father did not come into general use until well after our period.		Which specific names and types of bynames are appropriate for you depends entirely on what you are trying to re-create. The most important factors are the time, place, and culture you want to re-create, but your gender and class are important, too. Not all types of surname were used in all cultures -- many early medieval cultures used no surnames at all. Modern naming customs are generally '''not''' a good guide to [[medieval]] naming customs. For example, the [[Spanish]] custom of multiple given names and compound surnames refering to your mother and father did not come into general use until well after our period.

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	* Locatives		* Locatives
	:e.g John of [[London]] ([[English]]), Jhonne [[Glasgow]] ([[Scottish]]), Jehan de [[Paris]] ([[French]]), Gunther von Augsberg ([[German]]), Juan de Burgos ([[Spanish]])		:e.g John of [[London]] ([[English]]), Jhonne [[Glasgow]] ([[Scottish]]), Jehan de [[Paris]] ([[French]]), Gunther von Augsberg ([[German]]), Juan de Burgos ([[Spanish]]). These can also be descriptive, such as the English surnames ''Fleming'' (meaning a person from [[Flanders]]) or ''Wallace'' (meaning a person from [[Wales]]).
			:Another type of locative surname is a [[Wikipedia:Toponymy\|toponym]], in which a person is named for a natural feature (such as ''Hill'', ''Shore'', or ''Field'') or an artificial field (such as ''Bridge'', ''Church'', or ''Wall'').
	:Also, with a more localised flavour someone could be surnamed ''Bridge'', ''Mill'', ''Shore'' or ''Hermitage'' because they lived "close by the" whatever.
	* Patronymic/Matronymic (citing your father or mother)		* Patronymic/Matronymic (citing your father or mother)
	:e.g. Thorvaldr Thorgeirsson ([[Norse]]), Bernardo di Vincenzo ([[Italian]]), Boris Ivanovich ([[Russian]]), Ifor ap Dafydd (Cymraeg/[[Welsh]]), Sean U Neill ([[Irish]]), John FitzGilbert ([[Norman]]--often, but not always (see below) an indicator of illegitimacy)		:e.g. Thorvaldr Thorgeirsson ([[Norse]]), Bernardo di Vincenzo ([[Italian]]), Boris Ivanovich ([[Russian]]), Ifor ap Dafydd (Cymraeg/[[Welsh]]), Sean U Neill ([[Irish]]), John FitzGilbert ([[Norman]]--often, but not always (see below) an indicator of illegitimacy)
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	* Nicknames		* Nicknames
	:e.g. John Longshanks, Eric the Red, Vlad Dracule		:e.g. John Longshanks, Eric the Red, Vlad Dracule
	* Occupational ~~names~~		* Occupational bynames
	:e.g. Thomas Wheeler, John Cooper, Edward Carpenter, William Chandler		:e.g. Thomas Wheeler, John Cooper, Edward Carpenter, William Chandler

KarenLarsdatter: /* Names in the SCA */

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Names in the SCA

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	== Place Names ==		== Place Names ==
	[TO BE FILLED IN]		[TO BE FILLED IN]
	== Names in the SCA ==		== [[SCA_name\|Names in the SCA]] ==

	Your [[SCA]] [[persona]] will have an [[SCA name]] that should be registered with your [[herald]] and the SCA [[College of Arms]]. Although there is no requirement that you register your name, doing so guarantees that no one else in the SCA can (legally) use it. It is far more important that you choose a name that is a good re-creation of the naming customs of some medieval culture. You can find reliable information to help you do that at the [http://www.s-gabriel.org Academy of Saint Gabriel] and particular in its [http://www.s-gabriel.org/names Medieval Names Archive]. Be careful using other web resources: Almost none of them are intended as sources for accurate historical re-creation, and so the names you find there will generally '''not''' be correct.		Your [[SCA]] [[persona]] will have an [[SCA name]] that should be registered with your [[herald]] and the SCA [[College of Arms]]. Although there is no requirement that you register your name, doing so guarantees that no one else in the SCA can (legally) use it. It is far more important that you choose a name that is a good re-creation of the naming customs of some medieval culture. You can find reliable information to help you do that at the [http://www.s-gabriel.org Academy of Saint Gabriel] and particular in its [http://www.s-gabriel.org/names Medieval Names Archive]. Be careful using other web resources: Almost none of them are intended as sources for accurate historical re-creation, and so the names you find there will generally '''not''' be correct.

KarenLarsdatter: /* Names in the SCA */

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Names in the SCA

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	== Names in the SCA ==		== Names in the SCA ==

	Your [[SCA]] [[persona]] will have an [[SCA name]] that should be registered with your [[herald]] and the SCA [[College of Arms]]. Although there is no requirement that you register your name, doing so guarantees that no one else in the SCA can (legally) use it. It is far more important that you choose a name that is a good re-creation of the naming customs of some medieval culture. You can find reliable information to help you do that at the ~~Academy of Saint Gabriel (~~http://www.s-gabriel.org) and particular in its ~~Medieval Names Archive (~~http://www.s-gabriel.org/names). Be careful using other web resources: Almost none of them are intended as sources for accurate historical re-creation, and so the names you find there will generally '''not''' be correct.		Your [[SCA]] [[persona]] will have an [[SCA name]] that should be registered with your [[herald]] and the SCA [[College of Arms]]. Although there is no requirement that you register your name, doing so guarantees that no one else in the SCA can (legally) use it. It is far more important that you choose a name that is a good re-creation of the naming customs of some medieval culture. You can find reliable information to help you do that at the [http://www.s-gabriel.org Academy of Saint Gabriel] and particular in its [http://www.s-gabriel.org/names Medieval Names Archive]. Be careful using other web resources: Almost none of them are intended as sources for accurate historical re-creation, and so the names you find there will generally '''not''' be correct.

	Your [[groups\|branch]] will have to register a name as well. Some types of branches often follow particular fashions in naming, e.g. [[college]]s are often named after a [[patron]] [[saint]]. This follows one of the historical models for naming colleges in medieval Europe.		Your [[groups\|branch]] will have to register a name as well. Some types of branches often follow particular fashions in naming, e.g. some [[college]]s are often named after a [[patron]] [[saint]]. This follows one of the historical models for naming colleges in medieval Europe.

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Human Names

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	:Also, with a more localised flavour someone could be surnamed ''Bridge'', ''Mill'', ''Shore'' or ''Hermitage'' because they lived "close by the" whatever.		:Also, with a more localised flavour someone could be surnamed ''Bridge'', ''Mill'', ''Shore'' or ''Hermitage'' because they lived "close by the" whatever.
	* Patronymic/Matronymic (citing your father or mother)		* Patronymic/Matronymic (citing your father or mother)
	:e.g. Thorvaldr Thorgeirsson ([[Norse]]), Bernardo di Vincenzo ([[Italian]]), Boris Ivanovich ([[Russian]]), Ifor ap Dafydd (~~Cymru~~/[[Welsh]]), Sean U Neill ([[Irish]]), John FitzGilbert ([[Norman]]--often, but not always (see below) an indicator of illegitimacy)		:e.g. Thorvaldr Thorgeirsson ([[Norse]]), Bernardo di Vincenzo ([[Italian]]), Boris Ivanovich ([[Russian]]), Ifor ap Dafydd (Cymraeg/[[Welsh]]), Sean U Neill ([[Irish]]), John FitzGilbert ([[Norman]]--often, but not always (see below) an indicator of illegitimacy)

	:Depending on the culture, women would use differentiating terminology to indicate "daughter of":		:Depending on the culture, women would use differentiating terminology to indicate "daughter of":

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	:Depending on the culture, women would use differentiating terminology to indicate "daughter of":		:Depending on the culture, women would use differentiating terminology to indicate "daughter of":
	:e.g. Sigrid Njalsdatter ([[Norse]]), Ceinwen ferch Llewellyn (~~Cymru~~/[[Welsh]]), Aine inghean Sheain ([[Irish]]), Natasha Ivanova ([[Russian]])		:e.g. Sigrid Njalsdatter ([[Norse]]), Ceinwen ferch Llewellyn (Cymraeg/[[Welsh]]), Aine inghean Sheain ([[Irish]]), Natasha Ivanova ([[Russian]])

	:One of the best-known examples of a ''matronymic'' is that of [[King]] [[Henry II]] of [[England]], who was also known as Henry FitzEmpress (his mother was the widow of the [[Holy Roman Emperor]] and continued to use the [[title]] [[Empress (Matilda)\|Empress]] even after she'd married his father, [[Count]] Geoffrey of Anjou. Henry was ''not'' illegitimate!).		:One of the best-known examples of a ''matronymic'' is that of [[King]] [[Henry II]] of [[England]], who was also known as Henry FitzEmpress (his mother was the widow of the [[Holy Roman Emperor]] and continued to use the [[title]] [[Empress (Matilda)\|Empress]] even after she'd married his father, [[Count]] Geoffrey of Anjou. Henry was ''not'' illegitimate!).

Simoncursitor: /* Human Names */ -- locatives

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	* Locatives		* Locatives
	:e.g John of [[London]] ([[English]]), Jhonne [[Glasgow]] ([[Scottish]]), Jehan de [[Paris]] ([[French]]), Gunther von Augsberg ([[German]]), Juan de Burgos ([[Spanish]])		:e.g John of [[London]] ([[English]]), Jhonne [[Glasgow]] ([[Scottish]]), Jehan de [[Paris]] ([[French]]), Gunther von Augsberg ([[German]]), Juan de Burgos ([[Spanish]])
			:Also, with a more localised flavour someone could be surnamed ''Bridge'', ''Mill'', ''Shore'' or ''Hermitage'' because they lived "close by the" whatever.
	* Patronymic/Matronymic (citing your father or mother)		* Patronymic/Matronymic (citing your father or mother)
	:e.g. Thorvaldr Thorgeirsson ([[Norse]]), Bernardo di Vincenzo ([[Italian]]), Boris Ivanovich ([[Russian]]), Ifor ap Dafydd (Cymru/[[Welsh]]), Sean U Neill ([[Irish]]), John FitzGilbert ([[Norman]]--often, but not always (see below) an indicator of illegitimacy)		:e.g. Thorvaldr Thorgeirsson ([[Norse]]), Bernardo di Vincenzo ([[Italian]]), Boris Ivanovich ([[Russian]]), Ifor ap Dafydd (Cymru/[[Welsh]]), Sean U Neill ([[Irish]]), John FitzGilbert ([[Norman]]--often, but not always (see below) an indicator of illegitimacy)