Meat grinder - Revision history

Paul Matisz: Reverted edits by 212.71.30.162 (Talk); changed back to last version by Cian

2007-10-12T23:27:22Z

Reverted edits by 212.71.30.162 (Talk); changed back to last version by Cian

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	A '''meat grinder''' is a style of [[melee]] [[combat]]. The term can mean either a generic [[battle]] that creates high losses in a closely packed area, or a particular melee format. The latter, which appears to be a [[Cunnan:regional point of view\|regional usage]], is addressed here.		A '''meat grinder''' is a style of [[melee]] [[combat]]. The term can mean either a generic [[battle]] that creates high losses in a closely packed area, or a particular melee format. The latter, which appears to be a [[Cunnan:regional point of view\|regional usage]], is addressed here.

212.71.30.162 at 18:08, 12 October 2007

2007-10-12T18:08:08Z

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	A '''meat grinder''' is a style of [[melee]] [[combat]]. The term can mean either a generic [[battle]] that creates high losses in a closely packed area, or a particular melee format. The latter, which appears to be a [[Cunnan:regional point of view\|regional usage]], is addressed here.		A '''meat grinder''' is a style of [[melee]] [[combat]]. The term can mean either a generic [[battle]] that creates high losses in a closely packed area, or a particular melee format. The latter, which appears to be a [[Cunnan:regional point of view\|regional usage]], is addressed here.

Cian at 00:02, 21 June 2007

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	A meat grinder is a style of [[melee]] combat. The term can mean either a generic battle that creates high losses in a closely packed area, or a particular [[melee]] format. The latter, which appears to a regional usage, is addressed here.		A '''meat grinder''' is a style of [[melee]] [[combat]]. The term can mean either a generic [[battle]] that creates high losses in a closely packed area, or a particular melee format. The latter, which appears to be a [[Cunnan:regional point of view\|regional usage]], is addressed here.

	Of course, it also refers to a device designed to grind meat, such as is used in the making of [[sausage]].		Of course, it also refers to a device designed to grind [[meat]], such as is used in the making of [[sausage]].

	==Method==		==Method==
	A meat grinder is a [[melee]] format consisting of two teams, generally placed on either end of a [[bridge]] of reasonable width. The first team is composed of experienced ~~fighters~~, while the second contains newer fighters. The experienced team gets a single "life" (no [[resurrection]]s), and the newer fighter team receives unlimited ~~[[resurrection]]s~~. The goal of the newer fighter team is to eliminate the experienced fighters. The experienced fighters attempt to hold off this outcome for as long as possible.		A meat grinder is a melee format consisting of two teams, generally placed on either end of a [[bridge]] of reasonable width. The first team is composed of experienced [[fighter]]s, while the second contains newer fighters. The experienced team gets a single "life" (no [[resurrection]]s), and the newer fighter team receives unlimited resurrections. The goal of the newer fighter team is to eliminate the experienced fighters. The experienced fighters attempt to hold off this outcome for as long as possible.

	==Variation==		==Variation==
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	==Benefits==		==Benefits==
	The meat grinder offers multiple benefits as a training tool. The newer fighters learn basic [[melee]] fundamentals (sticking together, approach speed and distance, throwing shots in close quarters, etc), and also get the chance to learn in a progressive manner and try new things, as they have unlimited ~~[[resurrection]]s~~. Hesitation at fighting experienced fighters can also be cured. The experienced team learns to act conservatively, since the loss of even one member can be highly detrimental. Both teams gain experience dealing with ~~lenghthy~~ (relatively) battles requiring high stamina.		The meat grinder offers multiple benefits as a training tool. The newer fighters learn basic melee fundamentals (sticking together, approach speed and distance, throwing shots in close quarters, etc), and also get the chance to learn in a progressive manner and try new things, as they have unlimited resurrections. Hesitation at fighting experienced fighters can also be cured. The experienced team learns to act conservatively, since the loss of even one member can be highly detrimental. Both teams gain experience dealing with lengthy (relatively) battles requiring high stamina.

	==Criticism==		==Criticism==

AlexandreDavigne at 15:25, 20 June 2007

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	A meat grinder is a style of [[melee]] combat. The term can mean either a generic battle that creates high losses in a closely packed area, or a particular [[melee]] format. The latter is addressed here.		A meat grinder is a style of [[melee]] combat. The term can mean either a generic battle that creates high losses in a closely packed area, or a particular [[melee]] format. The latter, which appears to a regional usage, is addressed here.

			Of course, it also refers to a device designed to grind meat, such as is used in the making of [[sausage]].

	==Method==		==Method==

Galfrid atte grene: /* Criticism */

2007-06-19T18:28:40Z

Criticism

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	This format can seem harsh to newer fighters. It isn't a gentle method, and confidence can wane if the newer fighter team cannot make a dent in the experienced fighters. Conversely, the experienced fighters may find it tedious.		This format can seem harsh to newer fighters. It isn't a gentle method, and confidence can wane if the newer fighter team cannot make a dent in the experienced fighters. Conversely, the experienced fighters may find it tedious.

	[[category:SCAism]]		[[category:SCAism]] [[category:combat]]

Galfrid atte grene at 14:40, 19 June 2007

2007-06-19T14:40:38Z

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A meat grinder is a style of [[melee]] combat. The term can mean either a generic battle that creates high losses in a closely packed area, or a particular [[melee]] format. The latter is addressed here.

==Method==
A meat grinder is a [[melee]] format consisting of two teams, generally placed on either end of a [[bridge]] of reasonable width. The first team is composed of experienced fighters, while the second contains newer fighters. The experienced team gets a single "life" (no [[resurrection]]s), and the newer fighter team receives unlimited [[resurrection]]s. The goal of the newer fighter team is to eliminate the experienced fighters. The experienced fighters attempt to hold off this outcome for as long as possible.

==Variation==
Variation can be easily introduced into a meat grinder. After one or two rounds, it is usually clear what changes can be made to even the sides. Often it is helpful to place one experienced fighter on the newer fighter's team. This fighter can help with cohesion and encouragement. The experienced team can also be given a limited number of [[resurrection]]s if necessary.

==Benefits==
The meat grinder offers multiple benefits as a training tool. The newer fighters learn basic [[melee]] fundamentals (sticking together, approach speed and distance, throwing shots in close quarters, etc), and also get the chance to learn in a progressive manner and try new things, as they have unlimited [[resurrection]]s. Hesitation at fighting experienced fighters can also be cured. The experienced team learns to act conservatively, since the loss of even one member can be highly detrimental. Both teams gain experience dealing with lenghthy (relatively) battles requiring high stamina.

==Criticism==
This format can seem harsh to newer fighters. It isn't a gentle method, and confidence can wane if the newer fighter team cannot make a dent in the experienced fighters. Conversely, the experienced fighters may find it tedious.

[[category:SCAism]]