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Ladyadele: /* How is Authenticity Not Encouraged in Reenactment/Living History */

2008-10-13T21:22:45Z

How is Authenticity Not Encouraged in Reenactment/Living History

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	* [[Safety]] Concerns - For safety reasons certain styles of [[valid blows\|shots]] are not allowed by groups thus preventing some historical techniques from being used. Differing groups have differing standards.		* [[Safety]] Concerns - For safety reasons certain styles of [[valid blows\|shots]] are not allowed by groups thus preventing some historical techniques from being used. Differing groups have differing standards.
	* Laws - Some aspects of history are prohibited by law and thus are unable to portrayed (e.g. [[falconry]] in [[Australia]])		* Laws - Some aspects of history are prohibited by law and thus are unable to portrayed (e.g. [[falconry]] in [[Australia]])
	* Modern sensibilities - some aspects of history have taken a backseat to accommodation of modern sensibilities (e.g. vegetarian/gluten-free/food-free options at [[feast]]s, acceptance of [[~~eyeglasses~~]] on battlefields). Some others with remain acceptable as long as they are historical (e.g. [[fylfot]]s), although they may be offensive in a modern context. The balance between historical accuracy and concern for modern scruples depends on the group.		* Modern sensibilities - some aspects of history have taken a backseat to accommodation of modern sensibilities (e.g. vegetarian/gluten-free/food-free options at [[feast]]s, acceptance of [[eye glasses]] on battlefields). Some others with remain acceptable as long as they are historical (e.g. [[fylfot]]s), although they may be offensive in a modern context. The balance between historical accuracy and concern for modern scruples depends on the group.
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Ladyadele: /* How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA? */

2008-10-13T21:01:25Z

How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA?

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	* [[Camping]] - More and more period [[pavilion]]s are being seen at [[camping event]]s.		* [[Camping]] - More and more period [[pavilion]]s are being seen at [[camping event]]s.
	* [[Feast]]s - Most [[cook]]s serve [[period food]] at [[event]]s, and avoid using [[New World foods]].		* [[Feast]]s - Most [[cook]]s serve [[period food]] at [[event]]s, and avoid using [[New World foods]].
			* Appealing to Vanity - No one likes to look crap, especially when other look good around you. Thus, wearing joggers when others all have made/bought their own turnshoes makes one uncomfortable.
			* Open Admiration

	===How is Authenticty Not Encouraged in the SCA===		===How is Authenticty Not Encouraged in the SCA===

Ladyadele: /* How is Authenticty Not Encouraged in the SCA */ I've barely heard of the 20-foot rule. I don't think it's common, much less normal or ubiquitous.

2008-10-13T21:00:25Z

How is Authenticty Not Encouraged in the SCA: I've barely heard of the 20-foot rule. I don't think it's common, much less normal or ubiquitous.

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	===How is Authenticty Not Encouraged in the SCA===		===How is Authenticty Not Encouraged in the SCA===
	* No [[minimum standard]]s- the 'any attempt is good enough' idea does not encourage some people to go beyond the minimum.		* No [[minimum standard]]s- the 'any attempt is good enough' idea does not encourage some people to go beyond the minimum.
	* [[Period by Consensus]] Ideology - acceptance of non-period items on display breeds the same attitude in some others		*[[Period by Consensus]] Ideology - acceptance of non-period items on display breeds the same attitude in some others
	* 20ft Rule - looking good at 20ft is not much good when you are 5 ft from something
	* [[Safety]] Standards - grilled [[helmet]]s, [[basket hilt]]ed [[polearm]]s, [[rattan sword]]s covered in plastic [[tape]] are easily picked out as non-historic.		* [[Safety]] Standards - grilled [[helmet]]s, [[basket hilt]]ed [[polearm]]s, [[rattan sword]]s covered in plastic [[tape]] are easily picked out as non-historic.
	* Competitive [[combat]] - changed style of fighting to encourage [[aluminium]] armour, non-armoured lower legs, poor historical technique due to efforts to be faster in combat.		* Competitive [[combat]] - changed style of fighting to encourage [[aluminium]] armour, non-armoured lower legs, poor historical technique due to efforts to be faster in combat.

Ladyadele: /* How is Authenticity Not Encouraged in Reenactment/Living History */ Got rid of some weasel words

2008-10-13T20:53:24Z

How is Authenticity Not Encouraged in Reenactment/Living History: Got rid of some weasel words

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	* [[Safety]] Concerns - For safety reasons certain styles of [[valid blows\|shots]] are not allowed by groups thus preventing some historical techniques from being used. Differing groups have differing standards.		* [[Safety]] Concerns - For safety reasons certain styles of [[valid blows\|shots]] are not allowed by groups thus preventing some historical techniques from being used. Differing groups have differing standards.
	* Laws - Some aspects of history are prohibited by law and thus are unable to portrayed (e.g. [[falconry]] in [[Australia]])		* Laws - Some aspects of history are prohibited by law and thus are unable to portrayed (e.g. [[falconry]] in [[Australia]])
	* ~~Political~~ ~~Correctness~~ - some aspects of history have ~~been~~ ~~subverted~~ by ~~political~~ ~~correctness~~ (e.g. vegetarian/gluten-free/food-free options at [[feast]]s, acceptance of [[eyeglasses]] on battlefields) ~~although~~ others with remain acceptable as long as they are historical (e.g. [[fylfot]]s). ~~The~~ ~~extent~~ of ~~how~~ ~~much~~ ~~political~~ ~~correctness~~ ~~has~~ ~~degraded~~ ~~historical~~ ~~accuracy~~ ~~depends~~ on ~~individual~~ ~~groups~~ ~~(e.g.~~ ~~some~~ ~~groups~~ ~~may~~ ~~ignore~~ ~~dietary~~ ~~considerations)~~.		* Modern sensibilities - some aspects of history have taken a backseat to accommodation of modern sensibilities (e.g. vegetarian/gluten-free/food-free options at [[feast]]s, acceptance of [[eyeglasses]] on battlefields). Some others with remain acceptable as long as they are historical (e.g. [[fylfot]]s), although they may be offensive in a modern context. The balance between historical accuracy and concern for modern scruples depends on the group.
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Ladyadele: /* How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA? */

2008-10-13T20:43:37Z

How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA?

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	==Authenticity in the SCA==		==Authenticity in the SCA==
	===How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA?===		===How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA?===
	* [[College of Heralds]] - ~~Full~~ [[~~documentation~~]] is required to register your [[SCA name]] and [[device]].		* [[College of Heralds]] - [[Documentation]] is required to register your [[SCA name]] and [[device]].
	* [[Arts & Sciences]] - Authenticity (or historical accuracy) is a ~~criteria~~ when judging A&S competitions. Normally [[documentation]] is required.		* [[Arts & Sciences]] - Authenticity (or historical accuracy) is a criterion when judging A&S competitions. Normally [[documentation]] is required.
	* [[Fighter]]s - Well, although [[duct tape]] may still be used as strap substitutes, ~~bike~~ [[helmet]]s are no longer permitted as [[laws\|legal]] [[armour]], and most people wear a [[tabard]] over their pickle barrel [[armour]] bits.		* [[Fighter]]s - Well, although [[duct tape]] may still be used as strap substitutes, motorcycle [[helmet]]s are no longer permitted as [[laws\|legal]] [[armour]], and most people wear a [[tabard]] over their pickle barrel armour bits.
	* [[Dancing]] - ~~Most~~ SCA dance practices mostly teach [[period]] dances these days.		* [[Dancing]] - SCA dance practices mostly teach [[period]] dances these days.
	* [[Camping]] - More and more period [[pavilion]]s are being seen at [[camping event]]s.		* [[Camping]] - More and more period [[pavilion]]s are being seen at [[camping event]]s.
	* [[Feast]]s - Most [[~~feastocrat\|~~cook]]s serve [[period food]] at [[event]]s, and avoid using [[New World foods]]. ~~(Yes, it's true: not ''all'' SCA food has to involve [[sultana]]s or [[cloves]], and period food can taste good. Mmm.. what's better than a side of marinated [[roasting\|roast]] [[lamb]]?!)~~		* [[Feast]]s - Most [[cook]]s serve [[period food]] at [[event]]s, and avoid using [[New World foods]].

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KarenLarsdatter: /* How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA? */

2007-09-10T16:54:35Z

How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA?

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	* [[Dancing]] - Most SCA dance practices mostly teach [[period]] dances these days.		* [[Dancing]] - Most SCA dance practices mostly teach [[period]] dances these days.
	* [[Camping]] - More and more period [[pavilion]]s are being seen at [[camping event]]s.		* [[Camping]] - More and more period [[pavilion]]s are being seen at [[camping event]]s.
	* [[Feast]]s - Most [[feastocrat]]s serve [[period food]] at [[event]]s, and avoid using [[~~new~~ ~~world~~ foods]]. (Yes, it's true: not ''all'' SCA food has to involve [[sultana]]s or [[cloves]], and period food can taste good. Mmm.. what's better than a side of marinated [[roasting\|roast]] [[lamb]]?!)		* [[Feast]]s - Most [[feastocrat\|cook]]s serve [[period food]] at [[event]]s, and avoid using [[New World foods]]. (Yes, it's true: not ''all'' SCA food has to involve [[sultana]]s or [[cloves]], and period food can taste good. Mmm.. what's better than a side of marinated [[roasting\|roast]] [[lamb]]?!)

	===How is Authenticty Not Encouraged in the SCA===		===How is Authenticty Not Encouraged in the SCA===

KarenLarsdatter: /* How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA? */

2007-09-10T16:54:08Z

How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA?

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	===How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA?===		===How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA?===
	* [[College of Heralds]] - Full [[documentation]] is required to register your [[SCA name]] and [[device]].		* [[College of Heralds]] - Full [[documentation]] is required to register your [[SCA name]] and [[device]].
	* [[Arts & Sciences]] - Authenticity is a criteria when judging A&S competitions. Normally [[documentation]] is required.		* [[Arts & Sciences]] - Authenticity (or historical accuracy) is a criteria when judging A&S competitions. Normally [[documentation]] is required.
	* [[Fighter]]s - Well, although [[duct tape]] may still be used as strap substitutes, bike [[helmet]]s are no longer permitted as [[laws\|legal]] [[armour]], and most people wear a [[tabard]] over their pickle barrel [[armour]] bits.		* [[Fighter]]s - Well, although [[duct tape]] may still be used as strap substitutes, bike [[helmet]]s are no longer permitted as [[laws\|legal]] [[armour]], and most people wear a [[tabard]] over their pickle barrel [[armour]] bits.
	* [[Dancing]] - Most SCA dance practices mostly teach [[period]] dances these days.		* [[Dancing]] - Most SCA dance practices mostly teach [[period]] dances these days.

KarenLarsdatter: pre-17th, not pre-16th

2007-09-10T16:53:44Z

pre-17th, not pre-16th

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	Authenticity is a goal sought by some [[recreation]]ists, the majority of [[metal weapons groups\|re-enactors]] and is the stated purpose of [[living history\|living historians]] and is actively despised, feared and criticised by others. The way it was ''actually'' done "[[period\|back then]]". People who try to pursue this goal are often referred to as "[[Authenticity Mavins]]" or "Authenticity Nazis", or "Authenticity Police", or some other such insulting terms by members of groups whose goals aren't primarily concerned with this state.		Authenticity is a goal sought by some [[recreation]]ists, the majority of [[metal weapons groups\|re-enactors]] and is the stated purpose of [[living history\|living historians]] and is actively despised, feared and criticised by others. The way it was ''actually'' done "[[period\|back then]]". People who try to pursue this goal are often referred to as "[[Authenticity Mavins]]" or "Authenticity Nazis", or "Authenticity Police", or some other such insulting terms by members of groups whose goals aren't primarily concerned with this state.

	In the [[SCA]] (as stated in ''[[Corpora]]''), you must make an ''attempt'' at pre-[[~~16th~~ century]] [[garb]], although it's always nice to see people making an effort beyond this. There are several ways the SCA encourage authenticity, although the attitudes of some [[member]]s (which are given the labels above) unfortunately can give the rest of the group a bad name.		In the [[SCA]] (as stated in ''[[Corpora]]''), you must make an ''attempt'' at pre-[[17th century]] [[garb]], although it's always nice to see people making an effort beyond this. There are several ways the SCA encourage authenticity, although the attitudes of some [[member]]s (which are given the labels above) unfortunately can give the rest of the group a bad name.

	==Authenticity in the SCA==		==Authenticity in the SCA==

Sarah Van Der Goes: /* How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA? */ added wiki

2007-07-10T17:53:26Z

How is authenticity encouraged in the SCA?: added wiki

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	* [[Dancing]] - Most SCA dance practices mostly teach [[period]] dances these days.		* [[Dancing]] - Most SCA dance practices mostly teach [[period]] dances these days.
	* [[Camping]] - More and more period [[pavilion]]s are being seen at [[camping event]]s.		* [[Camping]] - More and more period [[pavilion]]s are being seen at [[camping event]]s.
	* [[Feast]]s - Most [[feastocrat]]s serve [[period food]] at [[event]]s, and avoid using [[new world foods]]. (Yes, it's true: not ''all'' SCA food has to involve [[sultana]]s or [[cloves]], and period food can taste good. Mmm.. what's better than a side of marinated roast [[lamb]]?!)		* [[Feast]]s - Most [[feastocrat]]s serve [[period food]] at [[event]]s, and avoid using [[new world foods]]. (Yes, it's true: not ''all'' SCA food has to involve [[sultana]]s or [[cloves]], and period food can taste good. Mmm.. what's better than a side of marinated [[roasting\|roast]] [[lamb]]?!)

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User 144 at 12:30, 22 May 2006

2006-05-22T12:30:41Z

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	* [[Safety]] Concerns - For safety reasons certain styles of [[valid blows\|shots]] are not allowed by groups thus preventing some historical techniques from being used. Differing groups have differing standards.		* [[Safety]] Concerns - For safety reasons certain styles of [[valid blows\|shots]] are not allowed by groups thus preventing some historical techniques from being used. Differing groups have differing standards.
	* Laws - Some aspects of history are prohibited by law and thus are unable to portrayed (e.g. [[falconry]] in [[Australia]])		* Laws - Some aspects of history are prohibited by law and thus are unable to portrayed (e.g. [[falconry]] in [[Australia]])
	* Political Correctness - some aspects of history have been subverted by political correctness (e.g. vegetarian/gluten-free/food-free options at [[feast]]s, acceptance of [[eyeglasses]] on battlefields) although others with remain acceptable as long as they are historical (e.g. [[~~fylflot~~]]s). The extent of how much political correctness has degraded historical accuracy depends on individual groups (e.g. some groups may ignore dietary considerations).		* Political Correctness - some aspects of history have been subverted by political correctness (e.g. vegetarian/gluten-free/food-free options at [[feast]]s, acceptance of [[eyeglasses]] on battlefields) although others with remain acceptable as long as they are historical (e.g. [[fylfot]]s). The extent of how much political correctness has degraded historical accuracy depends on individual groups (e.g. some groups may ignore dietary considerations).
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