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	The following is is a fragment of John Gower's mid [[14th century]] work dealing with astrology, the Liber Septimyus of the Confessio Amatis. I like it because it's at about the level that most educated people would understand the important [[science]] of Astronomy.		The following is is a fragment of John Gower's mid [[14th century]] work dealing with astrology, the Liber Septimyus of the Confessio Amatis. I like it because it's at about the level that most educated people would understand the important [[science]] of Astronomy.

	The source is p250-273 of Macaulay's "Collected Works of John Gower" (OUP Clarendon, 1901) ; John Gower lived between about 1328 and 1403.		The source is p250-273 of ''Macaulay's "Collected Works of John Gower" (OUP Clarendon, 1901) ''; John Gower lived between about 1328 and 1403.

	I've shortened it and modernised the spelling a bit, but I am happy to provide a copy to anyone that wants one. Note that Macaulay is a [[19th century]] guy, so I'm not going to die in a ditch that he got the transcription all right - but it does read right.

	Note that, like a lot of [[14th Century\|14th]]/[[15th century]] stuff, it's written in rhyme. We've done some vowel shifting in the last 600 years, so some of the rhymes no longer work ...		Note that, like a lot of [[14th Century\|14th]]/[[15th century]] stuff, it's written in rhyme. We've done some vowel shifting in the last 600 years, so some of the rhymes no longer work ...
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	Is most in Burgundy and [[France]].<br>		Is most in Burgundy and [[France]].<br>


	More later. It's late ... bug me if this hasn't been updated in a month or so.
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Morgant: wikification

2003-10-29T12:10:05Z

wikification

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	The following is is a fragment of John Gower's mid 14th C work dealing with astrology, the Liber Septimyus of the Confessio Amatis. I like it because it's at about the level that most educated people would understand the important science of Astronomy.		The following is is a fragment of John Gower's mid [[14th century]] work dealing with astrology, the Liber Septimyus of the Confessio Amatis. I like it because it's at about the level that most educated people would understand the important [[science]] of Astronomy.

	The source is p250-273 of Macaulay's "Collected Works of John Gower" (OUP Clarendon, 1901) ; John Gower lived between about 1328 and 1403.		The source is p250-273 of Macaulay's "Collected Works of John Gower" (OUP Clarendon, 1901) ; John Gower lived between about 1328 and 1403.

	I've shortened it and modernised the spelling a bit, but I am happy to provide a copy to anyone that wants one. Note that Macaulay is a 19th C guy, so I'm not going to die in a ditch that he got the transcription all right - but it does read right.		I've shortened it and modernised the spelling a bit, but I am happy to provide a copy to anyone that wants one. Note that Macaulay is a [[19th century]] guy, so I'm not going to die in a ditch that he got the transcription all right - but it does read right.

	Note that - like a lot of 14th/15th C stuff - it's written in rhyme. We've done some vowel shifting in the last 600 years, so some of the rhymes no longer work ...		Note that, like a lot of [[14th Century\|14th]]/[[15th century]] stuff, it's written in rhyme. We've done some vowel shifting in the last 600 years, so some of the rhymes no longer work ...

	:To speak upon Astronomy,<br>		:To speak upon Astronomy,<br>
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	And every fish that has a shell,<br>		And every fish that has a shell,<br>
	must in his governance dwell<br>		must in his governance dwell<br>
	In Almagest it telleth this<br>		In [[Almagest]] it telleth this<br>
	The Moons circle so low is<br>		The Moons circle so low is<br>
	whereof the Sun out of his stage<br>		whereof the Sun out of his stage<br>
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	Upon the land of Allemagne<br>		Upon the land of Allemagne<br>
	is set and upon Britain,<br>		is set and upon Britain,<br>
	which now is called England,<br>		which now is called [[England]],<br>
	For they travel in every land.<br>		For they travel in every land.<br>

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	The effect and disposition,<br>		The effect and disposition,<br>
	of this Planet and of his chance<br>		of this Planet and of his chance<br>
	Is most in Burgundy and France.<br>		Is most in Burgundy and [[France]].<br>

	More later. It's late ... bug me if this ~~hasnt~~ been updated in a month or so.		More later. It's late ... bug me if this hasn't been updated in a month or so.

Anton at 12:42, 28 October 2003

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	of this Planet and of his chance<br>		of this Planet and of his chance<br>
	Is most in Burgundy and France.<br>		Is most in Burgundy and France.<br>

			More later. It's late ... bug me if this hasnt been updated in a month or so.

Anton at 12:31, 28 October 2003

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	And be not fully shine clear.<br>		And be not fully shine clear.<br>
	But what man under his power<br>		But what man under his power<br>
	is ~~boren~~, he shall his places change<br>		is born, he shall his places change<br>
	and seek many ~~landes~~ strange <br>		and seek many lands strange <br>
	And as of this ~~condiction~~<br>		And as of this condition<br>
	The Moon's disposition<br>		The Moon's disposition<br>
	Upon the land of Allemagne<br>		Upon the land of Allemagne<br>
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	Of the planets the second,<br>		Of the planets the second,<br>
	above the Moon does take his ~~bounde~~<br>		above the Moon does take his bound<br>
	Mercury, and his nature is this,<br>		Mercury, and his nature is this,<br>
	that under him who that born is,<br>		that under him who that born is,<br>
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	And in writing curious,<br>		And in writing curious,<br>
	And sloth and lusts to travel<br>		And sloth and lusts to travel<br>
	in thing which ~~alls~~ might avail.<br>		In thing which else might avail.<br>
	He loveth ease, he loveth rest,<br>		He loveth ease, he loveth rest,<br>
	so he is not the worthieste, ;<br>		so he is not the worthieste, ;<br>
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	And as this condition,<br>		And as this condition,<br>
	The effect and disposition,<br>		The effect and disposition,<br>
	of this ~~Planety~~ and of his chance<br>		of this Planet and of his chance<br>
	Is most in Burgundy and France.<br>		Is most in Burgundy and France.<br>

Anton at 12:29, 28 October 2003

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	Note that - like a lot of 14th/15th C stuff - it's written in rhyme. We've done some vowel shifting in the last 600 years, so some of the rhymes no longer work ...		Note that - like a lot of 14th/15th C stuff - it's written in rhyme. We've done some vowel shifting in the last 600 years, so some of the rhymes no longer work ...

	:To speak upon Astronomy,		:To speak upon Astronomy,<br>
	As it is writen in the clergie,		As it is writen in the clergie,<br>
	to tell how the planets fare		to tell how the planets fare<br>
	Some part I think to declare.		Some part I think to declare.<br>
	My Son, unto thine audience,		My Son, unto thine audience,<br>
	Astronomy is the science		Astronomy is the science<br>
	of wisdom and of this cunning		of wisdom and of this cunning<br>
	which makes a man have knowing		which makes a man have knowing<br>
	of stars in the firmament,		of stars in the firmament,<br>
	figures circles and movement.		figures circles and movement.<br>


	Beneath all others stands the Moon,		Beneath all others stands the Moon,<br>
	the which has with the Sea to done,		the which has with the Sea to done,<br>
	of floods high and ebbes lowe,		of floods high and ebbes lowe,<br>
	upon his change it shall be know		upon his change it shall be know<br>
	And every fish that has a shell,		And every fish that has a shell,<br>
	must in his governance dwell		must in his governance dwell<br>
	In Almagest it telleth this		In Almagest it telleth this<br>
	The Moons circle so low is		The Moons circle so low is<br>
	whereof the Sun out of his stage		whereof the Sun out of his stage<br>
	Nay sees him nought with full visage		Nay sees him nought with full visage<br>
	For he is with the ground be shaded,		For he is with the ground be shaded,<br>
	So that the Moon is somtimes faded.		So that the Moon is somtimes faded.<br>
	And be not fully shine clear.		And be not fully shine clear.<br>
	But what man under his power		But what man under his power<br>
	is boren, he shall his places change		is boren, he shall his places change<br>
	and seek many landes strange		and seek many landes strange <br>
	And as of this condiction		And as of this condiction<br>
	The Moon's disposition		The Moon's disposition<br>
	Upon the land of Allemagne		Upon the land of Allemagne<br>
	is set and upon Britain,		is set and upon Britain,<br>
	which now is called England,		which now is called England,<br>
	For they travel in every land.		For they travel in every land.<br>

	Of the planets the second,		Of the planets the second,<br>
	above the Moon does take his bounde		above the Moon does take his bounde<br>
	Mercury, and his nature is this,		Mercury, and his nature is this,<br>
	that under him who that born is,		that under him who that born is,<br>
	in book he shall be studious		in book he shall be studious<br>
	And in writing curious,		And in writing curious,<br>
	And sloth and lusts to travel		And sloth and lusts to travel<br>
	in thing which alls might avail.		in thing which alls might avail.<br>
	He loveth ease, he loveth rest,		He loveth ease, he loveth rest,<br>
	so he is not the worthieste, ;		so he is not the worthieste, ;<br>
	But yet with somediel business		But yet with somediel business<br>
	his hearth is set upon richness.		his hearth is set upon richness.<br>
	And as this condition,		And as this condition,<br>
	The effect and disposition,		The effect and disposition,<br>
	of this Planety and of his chance		of this Planety and of his chance<br>
	Is most in Burgundy and France.		Is most in Burgundy and France.<br>

Anton at 12:27, 28 October 2003

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	Note that - like a lot of 14th/15th C stuff - it's written in rhyme. We've done some vowel shifting in the last 600 years, so some of the rhymes no longer work ...		Note that - like a lot of 14th/15th C stuff - it's written in rhyme. We've done some vowel shifting in the last 600 years, so some of the rhymes no longer work ...

	To speak upon Astronomy,		:To speak upon Astronomy,

	As it is writen in the clergie,		As it is writen in the clergie,
	to tell how the planets fare		to tell how the planets fare

Anton at 12:25, 28 October 2003

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	As it is writen in the clergie,		As it is writen in the clergie,

	to tell how the planets fare		to tell how the planets fare

	Some part I think to declare.		Some part I think to declare.

	My Son, unto thine audience,		My Son, unto thine audience,

	Astronomy is the science		Astronomy is the science

	of wisdom and of this cunning		of wisdom and of this cunning

	which makes a man have knowing		which makes a man have knowing

	of stars in the firmament,		of stars in the firmament,
		⚫	figures circles and movement.

⚫	~~figure~~ ~~circle~~ and movement.


	Beneath all others stands the Moon,		Beneath all others stands the Moon,

	the which has with the Sea to done,		the which has with the Sea to done,

	of floods high and ebbes lowe,		of floods high and ebbes lowe,

	upon his change it shall be know		upon his change it shall be know

	And every fish that has a shell,		And every fish that has a shell,

	must in his governance dwell		must in his governance dwell

	In Almagest it telleth this		In Almagest it telleth this

	The Moons circle so low is		The Moons circle so low is

	whereof the Sun out of his stage		whereof the Sun out of his stage

	Nay sees him nought with full visage		Nay sees him nought with full visage

	For he is with the ground be shaded,		For he is with the ground be shaded,

	So that the Moon is somtimes faded.		So that the Moon is somtimes faded.

	And be not fully shine clear.		And be not fully shine clear.

	But what man under his power		But what man under his power

	is boren, he shall his places change		is boren, he shall his places change

	and seek many landes strange		and seek many landes strange

	And as of this condiction		And as of this condiction

	The Moon's disposition		The Moon's disposition

	Upon the land of Allemagne		Upon the land of Allemagne

	is set and upon Britain,		is set and upon Britain,

	which now is called England,		which now is called England,

	For they travel in every land.		For they travel in every land.


	Of the planets the second,		Of the planets the second,

	above the Moon does take his bounde		above the Moon does take his bounde

	Mercury, and his nature is this,		Mercury, and his nature is this,

	that under him who that born is,		that under him who that born is,

	in book he shall be studious		in book he shall be studious

	And in writing curious,		And in writing curious,

	And sloth and lusts to travel		And sloth and lusts to travel

	in thing which alls might avail.		in thing which alls might avail.

	He loveth ease, he loveth rest,		He loveth ease, he loveth rest,

	so he is not the worthieste, ;		so he is not the worthieste, ;

	But yet with somediel business		But yet with somediel business

	his hearth is set upon richness.		his hearth is set upon richness.

	And as this condition,		And as this condition,

	The effect and disposition,		The effect and disposition,

	of this Planety and of his chance		of this Planety and of his chance

	Is most in Burgundy and France.		Is most in Burgundy and France.

Anton at 12:24, 28 October 2003

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	To speak upon Astronomy,		To speak upon Astronomy,

	As it is writen in the clergie,		As it is writen in the clergie,

	to tell how the planets fare		to tell how the planets fare

	Some part I think to declare.		Some part I think to declare.

	My Son, unto thine audience,		My Son, unto thine audience,

	Astronomy is the science		Astronomy is the science

	of wisdom and of this cunning		of wisdom and of this cunning

	which makes a man have knowing		which makes a man have knowing

	of stars in the firmament,		of stars in the firmament,

	figure circle and movement.		figure circle and movement.


	Beneath all others stands the Moon,		Beneath all others stands the Moon,

	the which has with the Sea to done,		the which has with the Sea to done,

	of floods high and ebbes lowe,		of floods high and ebbes lowe,

	upon his change it shall be know		upon his change it shall be know

	And every fish that has a shell,		And every fish that has a shell,

	must in his governance dwell		must in his governance dwell

	In Almagest it telleth this		In Almagest it telleth this

	The Moons circle so low is		The Moons circle so low is

	whereof the Sun out of his stage		whereof the Sun out of his stage

	Nay sees him nought with full visage		Nay sees him nought with full visage

	For he is with the ground be shaded,		For he is with the ground be shaded,

	So that the Moon is somtimes faded.		So that the Moon is somtimes faded.

	And be not fully shine clear.		And be not fully shine clear.

	But what man under his power		But what man under his power

	is boren, he shall his places ~~chage~~		is boren, he shall his places change
⚫	and seek many landes strange L

		⚫	and seek many landes strange

	And as of this condiction		And as of this condiction

	The Moon's disposition		The Moon's disposition

	Upon the land of Allemagne		Upon the land of Allemagne

	is set and upon Britain,		is set and upon Britain,

	which now is called England,		which now is called England,

	For they travel in every land.		For they travel in every land.


	Of the planets the second,		Of the planets the second,

	above the Moon does take his bounde		above the Moon does take his bounde

	Mercury, and his nature is this,		Mercury, and his nature is this,

	that under him who that born is,		that under him who that born is,

	in book he shall be studious		in book he shall be studious

	And in writing curious,		And in writing curious,

	And sloth and lusts to travel		And sloth and lusts to travel

	in thing which alls might avail.		in thing which alls might avail.

	He loveth ease, he loveth rest,		He loveth ease, he loveth rest,

	so he is not the worthieste, ;		so he is not the worthieste, ;

	But yet with somediel business		But yet with somediel business

	his hearth is set upon richness.		his hearth is set upon richness.

	And as this condition,		And as this condition,

	The effect and disposition,		The effect and disposition,

	of this Planety and of his chance		of this Planety and of his chance

	Is most in Burgundy and France.		Is most in Burgundy and France.

Anton at 12:23, 28 October 2003

2003-10-28T12:23:02Z

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The following is is a fragment of John Gower's mid 14th C work dealing with astrology, the Liber Septimyus of the Confessio Amatis. I like it because it's at about the level that most educated people would understand the important science of Astronomy.

The source is p250-273 of Macaulay's "Collected Works of John Gower" (OUP Clarendon, 1901) ; John Gower lived between about 1328 and 1403.

I've shortened it and modernised the spelling a bit, but I am happy to provide a copy to anyone that wants one. Note that Macaulay is a 19th C guy, so I'm not going to die in a ditch that he got the transcription all right - but it does read right.

Note that - like a lot of 14th/15th C stuff - it's written in rhyme. We've done some vowel shifting in the last 600 years, so some of the rhymes no longer work ...

To speak upon Astronomy,
As it is writen in the clergie,
to tell how the planets fare
Some part I think to declare.
My Son, unto thine audience,
Astronomy is the science
of wisdom and of this cunning
which makes a man have knowing
of stars in the firmament,
figure circle and movement.

Beneath all others stands the Moon,
the which has with the Sea to done,
of floods high and ebbes lowe,
upon his change it shall be know
And every fish that has a shell,
must in his governance dwell
In Almagest it telleth this
The Moons circle so low is
whereof the Sun out of his stage
Nay sees him nought with full visage
For he is with the ground be shaded,
So that the Moon is somtimes faded.
And be not fully shine clear.
But what man under his power
is boren, he shall his places chage
and seek many landes strange L
And as of this condiction
The Moon's disposition
Upon the land of Allemagne
is set and upon Britain,
which now is called England,
For they travel in every land.

Of the planets the second,
above the Moon does take his bounde
Mercury, and his nature is this,
that under him who that born is,
in book he shall be studious
And in writing curious,
And sloth and lusts to travel
in thing which alls might avail.
He loveth ease, he loveth rest,
so he is not the worthieste, ;
But yet with somediel business
his hearth is set upon richness.
And as this condition,
The effect and disposition,
of this Planety and of his chance
Is most in Burgundy and France.