https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=66.240.221.36&feedformat=atomCunnan - User contributions [en]2024-03-29T08:38:27ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.39.3https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Simoncursitor&diff=30562User talk:Simoncursitor2006-11-26T22:44:27Z<p>66.240.221.36: /* Kingdom of Alvia */</p>
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<div>Hello and welcome to Cunnan,<br />
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Good work on what you've been working on so far, we normally start by encouraging new users to make edits but you've beaten us to it. Feel free to edit [[User:Simoncursitor|your user page]] to tell us about yourself and link to any other websites you're involved in.<br />
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===Kingdom of Alvia===<br />
Since you added it to [[Other re-enactment sites]], could you explain what exactly Alvia is coz the homepage confuses me. Is it a fictional kingdom played within [[Far Isles]] or is it a breakaway group from Far Isles? - [[User:Cian|Cian Gillebhrath]]<br />
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:Alvia as such never existed, and, in due course, will come off here. It was "invented" as a Far Isles plot device. I offered to flesh it out, did so, and found that the people who'd started it had forgotten saying I could, and thought someone had run with the idea and founded it. However, the FI have stuck with it and (for those who don't know the *truth*) I don't want to spoil the illusion that it might be Out There Somewhere. It's here short-term simply for that reason (and because I built the p*gg*ng web-site and I'm proud(-ish) of it. Thank you for bothering to look at it. It will also die eventually, but I have three more heraldic devices to put on, and several Guilds yet to do. Not to mention possibly the Return of Wicked!Alix and her Dupe-Princess!Ysabeau.<br />
:--[[User:Simoncursitor|Simoncursitor]] 18:42, 4 Nov 2004 (EST)<br />
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Some really beautiful writing about english monachs. thankyou[[User:Tiff|Tiff]] 08:22, 5 Jan 2005 (CST)<br />
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"post-racialist Uk PoV"? Your additions are good and in-depth, so what is a "post-racialist"? Are you meaning a modern Brit having a Roman PoV in the timeline of the "post-Roman Empire"? - [[User:Cian|Cian Gillebhrath]]<br />
No, merely writing as someone whose ancestors were probably at least indirectly responsible for the annihilation of African civilization. We will certainly have benefited from it, given that without it there would be no British Empire, just a muddy island occasionally conquered by the [[France|French]].<br />
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*Thank you -- I will endeavour to live up to the high standards you have set. I hope you don't mind if I exercise this, later this week, by just slotting in the Scottish kings onto the Main Page, so that I can get to them quicker, for edits. May I say that Cunnan has fast become one of my favourite sites to visit and to contribute to, because of the peaceful and scholarly atmosphere -- something which I sometimes miss in Real Life, let alone on the World Wide Weirdness.<br />
--[[User:Simoncursitor|Simoncursitor]] 04:40, 30 May 2005 (CDT)<br />
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==the mango issue==<br />
In solidarity with your decision to delete the spurious mango page, I have researched and written a little blurb about the period relevance of [[mango]]s. --[[User:Elyas|Elyas]] 17:05, 14 Jun 2005 (CDT)<br />
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Thank you. I'm pleased everything has "worked out". --[[User:Simoncursitor|Simoncursitor]] 02:06, 15 Jun 2005 (CDT)<br />
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==England==<br />
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I have edited the [[England]] page with a view to creating links useful to those with English personae. With this in mind I have attempted to create pages for distinct eras, e.g. [[Anglo-Saxon England]]. I am not totally happy with the way that I have grouped the eras (I think an ''Angevin England'' page might be a good idea), but my English history is not good enough for me to do this with any confidence. Could you take a look at it for me and group the eras into what you think is useful from a cultural point of view?<br />
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not my question, but I'm not convinced by your middle eras. I guess i think more in terms of archeology than history. 1066 is a clear change, but changes such as gaining anjevin kings didn't really change the overall society. <br />
*perhaps: Roman England/brittain, Anglo saxon england, anglo-norman england, medieval england<br />
Weather medeival england starts in 1155 or sometime later, is a bit to argue.<br />
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== re: Arthur ==<br />
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Please edit away. I am actually not a big Arthuriana person, and have scant knowledge of the subject. But when I saw it was missing it seemed like such a critical thing for an SCA wiki. I figured if I started the framework then it would be easier for more qualified others to fill in the blanks. :) [[User:Sabine|Sabine]] 11:12, 19 Jul 2005 (CDT)<br />
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==Scottish Monarchs==<br />
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I took a look at the Scottish Monarchs list. Gosh you'rs doing a good job! I have a little template that I would like to use to pretty up the pages. You can see what I have currently on the [[Duncan II]] page. If you would like to see any changes to the template let me know on the [[Template talk:Scottish Monarch]] page. Using the template is pretty straightforward, but in case you are confuse by something, I'll write a set of instructions at [[Template talk:Scottish Monarch]]. [[User:Conrad Leviston|Conrad Leviston]] 21:21, 19 Jul 2005 (CDT)<br />
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==Garb==<br />
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Hi, I've done a quick page on [[garb]] the heraldic charge. See [[Talk:Garb]] for related issues if you want to comment on it. [[User:Conrad Leviston|Conrad Leviston]] 04:09, 7 Sep 2005 (CDT)<br />
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You asked me: <cite>Would you mind my undoing your re-direct, and turning it into a disambiguation, so as to allow the secondary, heraldic, meaning of ''"garb"'', as a stask of corn, to be recorded ? --[[User:Simoncursitor|Simoncursitor]] 02:38, 7 Sep 2005 (CDT)</cite><br />
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:Looks like you have this taken care of. I like the new page. Thanks. --[[User:JakeVortex|JakeVortex]] 11:57, 21 Oct 2005 (CDT)<br />
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==re:Viking==<br />
Sorry -- the "erased silliness" bit was about buses being an endagered species -- not the actual use of "viking" as a verb. I'm actually looking into the etymology of the word "viking" -- it appears to have something to do with a "vyk" or "creek", unless my Norse is worse than my Latin, in which case I'm dead wrong.<br />
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Of course, it could be like the Canadian use verb "jigging", which can mean "to dance a jig" or "to go hunting for small game". I've never danced a jig before, but I've been 'coon jiggin', greytail jiggin' and coney jiggin' (raccoon, squirrel and rabbit, respectively.<br />
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== Re: the North Pole ==<br />
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Go ahead -- the article was written as part of a vandalism spree, and I was so demoralized at that point that I just wiped it and went to bed.<br />
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Oddly, it has inspired me to do some research on the medieval concept of the "Ultima Thule", as the land beyond the northlands, the furthest extent of the world. I'll post an article on it, eventually.<br />
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== User: 208.182.75.11 ==<br />
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Simon: Is it possible to block this yahoo for more than 24 or 48 hours (say indefinitely, or for 3-4 months at the least)? He keeps coming back and messing up articles, and I can see he's bee blocked multiple times?<br />
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Also, how does one block a user, or erase an entire article?<br />
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== Spoke too soon! ==<br />
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[[Religion in the Renaissance]] has been repeatedly vandalized again, looks like by the same people. I've corrected it.<br />
Guilty parties: [[User:64.56.136.110]], [[User:66.4.125.11]] and [[User:208.182.75.11]].<br />
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It's not that I mind, so much, it's just that the vandalism is really juvenile. Makes you wish for a higher form of vandal.<br />
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== Credit where credits due ==<br />
Keep on going Simon with your monarchs, etc. articles, but don't forget the [[Cunnan:Copyrights|copyright "policy"]]. I noticed that [[James I]] etc were mainly cut'n'paste from [[Wikipedia]] articles. Even the article is going to be added to or rewritten later, we should at least credit Wikipedia with being the source of the original text. - [[User:Cian|Cian Gillebhrath]] 15:13, 11 May 2006 (EST)<br />
== Horses Branle ==<br />
As far as I know, the [[Horses Branle]] is a [[dance]], not a particular [[dance step]], so I have undone the "dance step" category you added to the page. - [[User:Cian|Cian Gillebhrath]]<br />
Sorry -- this was added because the article specifies the steps being used, rather thsn just describing the dance.</div>66.240.221.36https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Cunnan:Old_Village_pump_discussions_(moved_2004)&diff=30561Cunnan:Old Village pump discussions (moved 2004)2006-11-26T22:42:54Z<p>66.240.221.36: /* Old topics */</p>
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<div>This page contains old discussions from the [[Cunnan:Village pump|Village pump]]. If you need to talk about these issues again please do so there and not here.<br />
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== Old topics ==<br />
=== Headline news ===<br />
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OK, I want a new major category for an idea I've been kicking around for a while. I want to do a series of pages, with the high points of the news of the day for a place and other things that someone living there would know. I dont so much want wars and battles, but when the new bridge got put up, who the King is sleeping with this week, who the top poets are and whether or not the harvest was good or bad. I've got some scrawled notes for 1589, and I'd like a set of pages I can do ... a "News from a Place and Time" section would be ideal. And could I please appeal for some way to easily put footnotes into Wiki ? I'm a footnote junkie, because that empowers readers to go do their own research.<br />
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:Thats an interesting idea. I'd say the best way to go about it would be to link to pages with names like <nowiki>[[News from 1066]]</nowiki> of <nowiki>[[News from 1066, England]]</nowiki> from the different [[period|centuries]]. If there were lots of these pages we'd have to start dividing the centuries into decades. Anyway, the best thing to do now would be to create a [[Cunnan:Period headline news|sample page of headlines]] so that we can all comment on it. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
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=== Working with Wikipedia and other online material ===<br />
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How do people see this site working with content on http://www.wikipedia.org (or other sites I suppose)? If wikipedia has good content on some topic of interest, do we just address the re-enactment aspect and use an external links section to point people to the wikipedia page? Problem there is that as people surf they end up leaving this site and there won't likely be links to bring them back. Alternatively, we could copy over content from wikipedia so that linked content would point to the Cunnan version, but the obvious problem here is redundant maintainence. Whatever the consensus, it seems the style guide could say a little more about this. [[User:JakeVortex|JakeVortex]] 10:34, 30 Oct 2003 (EST)<br />
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:When I've moved in info from the wikipedia I've tried to re-word it so that its a bit more SCA relevant. I'd say that the best way to work with wikipedia content is to move it into Cunnan and work from there, that way we can add whatever we feel is needed to the article without worrying about the goals of the wikipedia. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
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On a related topic, would it be possible / desirable to make all external links open in a new window? [[User:Conrad_Leviston|Conrad]]<br />
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:It would be possible but it is not something I'd like to do. It would mean making some changes to the wiki software which would make it very hard to upgrade. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
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The main problems I have with some of the stuff in Wikipedia is that it is either (a) wrong, being often based on cuts from, say, 1905 editions of encyclopediae, which are in turn based on research conducted in the 1800's, or (b) not applicable to SCA folks.<br />
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:If it is wrong or dated, it seems better to fix it there than to make a new copy here. I agree with the comments that the value of pages here is to make the content relevant to SCA folks. ~ [[User:JakeVortex|JakeVortex]]<br />
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Now I don't have a problem with a lot of it. It's relevant and accurate and stuff, and we needn't reproduce it here. e.g. the various biographical articles which are quite detailed. Some of their other articles contain a number of innacuracies and/or prejudices, however. Also, an article on, say, the third crusade, for which wikipedia gives the dry facts, is really only useful here if you take the view of how you would handle your persona if he or she were living, say, in the levant in the time of that crusade.<br />
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For that reason I'll continue my current approach of linking to wikipedia articles where appropriate, copying and revising where necessary, and re-writing from scratch with links to the original where I feel it benefits Cunnan for me to do that.<br />
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=== Standard format for attribution ===<br />
For those that haven't been following the conversation happening in another part of the wiki the topic of attribution for original text has come up. Since we have, at least, one person who insists upon having this style of attribution in the article (and not just the article history) I think there should be some discussion of a standard format.<br />
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I don't like the idea of this being used for articles that have been written ''for'' the wiki (since the original author will always be recorded by the software in this case and it is contrary to the wiki ideal) but I do think that it would good for this to be included in articles started using content previously published elsewhere (since the original author may not have been the person who added it to the wiki).<br />
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The format I propose is as follows:<br />
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Much of this article is based on an original article by ''Person XYZ'', you can find a copy of the original article at ''some location (Possibly the article history?)''<br />
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What do people think of this format? When should/shouldn't attribution be included? - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
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:Personally, I think that if somebody wants to have their own perspective with attribution on the wiki I would like to see it done the following way:<br />
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:The person would put either a stub or non-controversial entry for the topic in question (eg. the reformation started when Martin Luther accidentally nailed his laundry list to the church door). At the bottom would be a ''See also'' list including something like ''Anton's perspective of the Reformation''.<br />
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:Given his writing style and depth of knowledge and writing style I would go out of my way to look at what Anton has to say on a subject. Having extra pages along these lines would IMO add an extra dimension to the wiki, while still retaining its original flavour. Everybody still gets to have their input on the main article page, while individuals are able to put forward a consistant, well thought out point of view in a single article. Best of all no extra coding is required. [[User:Conrad Leviston|Conrad Leviston]]<br />
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=== Software Upgrade ===<br />
I'll soon be upgrading the wiki software. This means that the wiki will be locked for a short while and that things may appear to be broken. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
:The software upgrade seems to have been successful. If you spot any weirdness be sure to mention it here.<br />
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:It might be a good idea for everyone to log out and then in again to help clear up any user preference issues - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
::I just noticed that some of the skins don't seem to be working (Cologne Blue is almost useless), I'll try to fix this quickly. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
:::Skins are fixed again. The database is now read/write so people can begin editing again. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
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For people who asked me if the article count was accurate: It wasn't but it is now. We have 1033 articles (a bit of a difference!). - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
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=== Categories ===<br />
The current stable version of the Mediawiki software, which Cunnan is running, doesn't include the experimental Category feature. This means that there are some articles that contain <nowiki>[[Category:whatever]]</nowiki> which no longer do anything special. I've deleted the Category: articles but pages linking to them will still need to be cleaned. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
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=== Enhanced special pages links ===<br />
It is now possible to link to specific cases of the special pages. Eg <nowiki>[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Heraldry]]</nowiki> will create [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Heraldry]], a list of all pages that link to the Heraldry article. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] ([[Special:Contributions/Tobin|See my contributions]], another example of the enhanced special page links ;-)<br />
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=== RFEs ===<br />
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Two enhancements I'd like to see:<br />
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* A piece of javascript to place the cursor into the search box on entering the main frame. It would be a few liners in the main template. I'll see if I can dig out the code and paste it here.<br />
* A search for links type page where I can find what links to a certain article without creating the article. e.g. I've written a bunch of pages with links to, say, lollard, lollardry, lollardy, lollards, etc, and I want to find them all in turn if I have to but fix the links so I only create one "lollard" page.<br />
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=== Finding a specific users contributions ===<br />
I was trying to find an anton's first news headlines article, and anyway i realised I couldn't work out how to view a list of anton's contributions. I'm not fussed if you decide to keep this private, but I believe you've been running under the idea that anyone could *easily* find out what annother contributor has been editting. New software issue? Lack of Links ot help me? i don't know - tell me.<br />
And I'm still trying to that article...<br />
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:At the bottom of every user page is a "User contributions" link. You can also link to these like so: <nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/Some user name]]</nowiki> e.g. [[Special:Contributions/Tiff]]. Anton's contributions can be found at [[Special:Contributions/Anton]] (a few of his edits have been made when he wasn't logged in these can be found at [[Special:Contributions/210.9.142.25]]. Remember though that edits made by someone who is not logged in could actually have been made by anyone, we shouldn't be quick to assume who an anonymous user is). Anyway, Anton's page of sample headlines can be found at [[Cunnan:Period headline news]] (it wont show up when you search unless you specify that the software should look in the "Cunnan:" namespace. This option appears at the bottom of the search results page). - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
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=== Footnotes. ===<br />
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I just noticed a nice way of handling footnotes on the Wikipedia. It is not only possible to link to headings on another page. It is also possible to link to a heading withing the current page e.g <nowiki>[[#Footnote|<sup>1</sup>]]</nowiki> is translated into a "swish" looking footnote link[[#Footnote|<sup>1</sup>]] (<--- there it is). If people would like to use this style of footnotes then it might be best to use symbols not numbers as the link text (or an abbreviation of the reference name, etc). - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 21:16, 15 Dec 2003 (EST)<br />
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This is where the footnote link links to. Nice isn't it?<br />
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=== Lochac-centrism? ===<br />
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I realise that Cunnan is hosted by and mostly maintained by folks from Lochac. My question is, is there an active intent to make the information on it Lochac-centric, or would you like the information to be more widely applicable?<br />
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To give an example of what I mean: take a look at [[non-combatant]], and read it while keeping in mind that most [[Kingdoms]] have completely different rules for light armour and suchlike. The information given is regionally specific but is not identified as such.<br />
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Should it be identified as such? Would you appreciate broader perspectives? Or, if this is intended as a largely Lochacian resource, would it be a good idea to put a prominent notice somewhere informing visitors of this fact?<br />
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Just one voice of many, but..<br />
Personally I'd like to see the widest possible audience for this wiki, with the focus being simply a consequence of the users. So I like lochac and sca specific info, but I prefer giving a general introduction, then saying "in lochac...." or having subsections of articles eg "favours in the sca" after "medieval favours"<br />
Sometimes I think articles will be entirely in a subsection eg I think the persona article could be given the subtitle "personas in the sca", enabling other types of personas to be added if anyone comes across them. But since we've labelled this as a sca wiki I'm not so fussy about that as I sound.<br />
And finally, yes you are one of the perfect people to help label the wiki thusly - you know what we are talking about when we slip in Lochac centric stuff, and also know which bits are done differently elsewhere (which we often don't).<br />
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:I'd think it would be very nice to give the wiki a more general, non-lochac centric feel. Part of this will mean trying to attract more contributors from other kingdoms. If you want to edit something to make it more general then go right ahead! There is no reason for us not to try and cover the entire of the SCA, wiki isn't paper. We can, and should, be as comprehensive as possible! :-)<br />
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:Much of the Lochac bent that articles have is obviously the result of the people doing the editing (some of the old, old articles still have a [[College of St Monica|St. Monican]] feel to them.) We should expand the article on [[cunnan]] to explain how we got where we are today. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
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::I added a [[Cunnan::Lochac-centrism]] page to organize clean up, and proposed some boiler plate for pages that need attention. ~ [[User:JakeVortex|JakeVortex]]<br />
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::I moved the page to [[Cunnan:Regional point of view]] (or [[RPOV]]) since I am just as apt to write something An Tir-centric. ~ [[User:JakeVortex|JakeVortex]]<br />
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=== Redaction Project ===<br />
In case someone hasn't already noticed I've imported all the recipes from the [[Forme of Cury]] into Cunnan. They're useful on their own but they would be aven better with redactions! To help make this happen I've written a set of [[Cunnan:Redaction project instructions|Redaction project instructions]] and have cleaned up [[Cunnan:Recipes from the Forme of Cury|Recipes from the Forme of Cury]] to help identify redacted/unredacted recipes. Both pages need to be examined by other users<br />
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I've spoken to a few people in [[Krae Glas]] and they are (were?) interested in this project so I was planning on testing the instructions/format on the group there before I started announcing this on various mailing lists. Of course, since this is in the wiki anyone is welcome to start now and recruit others (I just wanted to test things out first).<br />
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So, have I missed anything obvious in the instructions? Can anyone think of a better way to handle this? - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
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=== Interwiki links ===<br />
The wiki software provides an easy, wiki style, way to link to other sites. For example <nowiki>[[Google:Cunnan]]</nowiki> creates [[Google:Cunnan]]. The list of sites that can be linked to in this way is something that I can easily change if people want me to.<br />
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I think it would be useful for us to compile a list of sites that it would be nice for us to be able to link to. Group websites and archives. I'm not keen on the idea of individual's sites but I'm not against them either.<br />
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Do people think that this is important enough for us to bother compiling a list? - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
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: This is great! It seems to already support en.wikipedia.org. It would be great to have a list of what all was supported. Be nice to have other related wikis like wiktionary.org and elizabethangeek. ~ [[User:JakeVortex|JakeVortex]] 07:12, 13 Jan 2004 (EST)<br />
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::I'll copy the complete list to [[Cunnan:Interwiki]]. Currently the list is full of sites which are in no way relevant to the SCA. I propose we empty the list, with the exception of prefixes we currently use, and start over. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]<br />
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=== Years ===<br />
The method for pages of years in the modern era seems to be fairly ad hoc. at the moment, so I'd like to propose a standard format.<br />
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Firstly, years in CE format (eg [[2002]]) should contain only events outside "the game". This would probably include things like archaeological finds (bananas in a Tudor midden heap etc.) and important events in the life of Cunnan. AS years should contain "in game" events, such as Lochac going crown. AS years could link to the concurrent CE years and vice versa.<br />
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Secondly, AS years should include "AS" in their title (ie [[AS XXXIV]], not [[XXXIV]]).<br />
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This will require a bit of tedious fiddling about, but unless anybody raises objections or has a better idea I'll start on the new format in a few days time. [[User:Conrad Leviston|Conrad Leviston]] 23:01, 24 Mar 2004 (EST)<br />
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OK, I've done that, except I have included dots in AS (ie the link reads as [[A.S. XXXIV]]). I figure links without dots can be turned into redirect pages as they show up. [[User:Conrad Leviston|Conrad Leviston]] 22:37, 28 Apr 2004 (EST)<br />
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*I can see you've put in the hard yards, Conrad - good work. Now we just have to make it easy for people to maintain. One problem that will crop up is that not many people think in A.S. We can mitigate this by (as you said) linking CE -> A.S., and adding an A.S. timeline article to the main page. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]] 22:45, 28 Apr 2004 (EST)<br />
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=== Software upgrade time ===<br />
It is time for the wiki software to be upgraded again as we are lagging behind the current Mediawiki version. There will be some hand new features introduced by this upgrade, including better image handling (thumbnails alignment). Take a look at: http://wikipedia.sourceforge.net/ for more information on Mediawiki development.<br />
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The upgrade should take less than an hour but the database will be locked during that time. I'll try to make sure it happens during a "slow" moment. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 23:52, 28 Mar 2004 (EST)<br />
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* The upgrade should be over now and everything appears to be working (although all out links vanished for a few minutes there after something in the settings exploded). If anything doesn't work as expected Leave a note here. I'll explain the new features and changes when I have time. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 11:09, 29 Mar 2004 (EST)<br />
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=== 222.183.0.0/16 range blocked ===<br />
Since the link spammers working from addresses in the 222.183.xxx.xxx range don't seem to have taken the hint I've blocked all IP addresses in the range 222.183.0.0/16 (that is from 222.183.0.0 to 222.183.255.254).<br />
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This block covers 65,536 addresses so it is possible but very unlikely that it will affect a legitimate editor. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 19:03, 28 Apr 2004 (EST)<br />
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*I don't think it took, Tobin - our friend's back again. I'll email you what I think the problem is. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]] 20:16, 29 Apr 2004 (EST)<br />
**The block should now work. "Thank you" to Morgant for his help on this. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 23:19, 29 Apr 2004 (EST)<br />
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=== More Chinese Link Spam ===<br />
The Chinese link spammers are starting to annoy me. I've blocked another range of addresses: 218.13.0.0/16 (that is from 218.13.0.0 to 218.13.255.254)<br />
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I don't like to use range blocks in this way but I don't think any of us feel like spending all our time cleaning up after them.<br />
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The problem with this new block, in particular, is that the start of the address range covers American IP addresses and might stop a legitimate editor.<br />
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The block can be removed at some time we agree on but I suspect we'll need to leave it for at least a fortnight.<br />
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If anyone has a problem with these kinds of blocks then please discuss it here. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 15:26, 30 Apr 2004 (EST)<br />
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=== varangian household ===<br />
I am wondering wher this varangian household is based out of. I am in Atenveldt, but learned under steingrim in An Tir. I also want to know if we Varangoi can camp and fight together at Estrella, which is 1 1/2 hours from my house. Please e-mail me at skerritheviking@yahoo.com. I think it would be interesting to get sort of an international standard on things, like cloaks and rank, loosley in place!<br />
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If it is the entry under [[Varangian]], then this is an australian non-sca metal weapons recreational group. I am not sure of the origins of this group (it might be a former sca member), but it is a whole organisation, much larger than a household. I doubt if any will be able to make it to estrella, this being a long way from australia, and also not their normal fighting style (they do sometimes do archery with the sca here, but lochac archery is very differnt from american sca archery), but perhaps if you follow the web link provided, you can invite them to if ever buisness or holidays take them to america.<br />
[[User:Tiff|Tiff]]<br />
860927176368</div>66.240.221.36https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Wiki&diff=30560Category talk:Wiki2006-11-26T21:57:44Z<p>66.240.221.36: </p>
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<div>All the pages in this category have a bad link to [[:category:Wiki|this category]]. If clicked, it takes you to the editting version of this page, without the member list of the category. Is Wiki a reserved word for categories? - [[User:Cian|Cian Gillebhrath]] 12:14, 3 May 2006 (EST)<br />
716751522232</div>66.240.221.36https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Shire_of_Arrowsreach&diff=30559Shire of Arrowsreach2006-11-26T21:57:11Z<p>66.240.221.36: /* External Links */</p>
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The '''Shire of Arrowsreach''' is the [[SCA]] [[groups|group]] in the [[North eastern suburbs of Melbourne]]. Of course anyone can join any group or subgroup, so not everyone lives in this area, nor does everyone who lives in this area belong to this group, but it will mean events are close to home for people who live in this area.<br />
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While everyone knows it as Arrowsreach, it was infact registered with the [[College of Arms]] as ''Arrowreach''.<br />
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* [[Why Arrowsreach isn't part of Stormhold]].<br />
* [[events in Arrowsreach]]<br />
* History of Arrowsreach - go to their website http://www.arrowsreach.com/<br />
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* Neighbouring SCA Groups<br />
** [[Barony of Stormhold]]<br />
** [[Shire of Krae Glas]]<br />
** [[Shire of Bordescros]]<br />
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* Noted [[household]]s of Arrowreach:<br />
** [[House Saarlands]]<br />
** [[the Axemen]]<br />
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== External Links ==<br />
* Websites of Important people<br />
** [[http://www.portallus.com/people/emlyn/ Emlyn ap Rhys]]<br />
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* Arts and Sciences<br />
** [[http://www.florilegium.org/ Florilegium]]<br />
** [[http://www.heraldicclipart.com/ Heralic Clipart]]<br />
** [[http://shadowmist.hfsinchaos.com/links2.html Links to SCA resources]]<br />
** [[http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/shoe/SHOEHOME.HTM Footware]]<br />
** [[http://www.larp.com/legioxx/ The Twentieth Legion]] Imperial Roman Group.<br />
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* Fighting<br />
** [[http://www.sca.org.au/marshal/ Lochac Marshallate Home Page]]<br />
** [[http://www.bellatrix.org/school/ Bellatrix Fighting School]]<br />
** [[http://www.geocities.com/earlygunnery/ Early Gunnery]]<br />
** [[Polarm Descriptions]]<br />
** [[http://www.armourarchive.org/ Amour Archive]]<br />
** [[http://www.combat-archery.com Combat Archery Website]]<br />
** [[http://www.thelostboys.org/army/equipment.html Equipment Guide]] for Heavy Fighters<br />
** [[http://www.forest.gen.nz/Medieval/articles/garments/Charles_blois/Charles_blois.html Historical Surcoat]] with patterns.<br />
<br />
* Heraldry<br />
** [[http://www.heraldicclipart.com/ Heraldic Clip Art]]<br />
<br />
* Friends that we know<br />
** [[http://www.angevintreasures.com/ Angevin Treasures]]<br />
** [[http://www.angevintreasures.com/wystle/ Master Efenwealt]]<br />
** [[http://sui-001.livejournal.com/ Sui's Wonderful Stuff]]<br />
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Photos Of Stuff<br />
** [[http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Bridge/7900/lcnov02.htm Lochac November Crown AS XXXVII]]<br />
<br />
Other Places of Interest<br />
** [[http://www.crossroads.org.au/ CrossRoads]] A Medieval Villiage in New South Wales.<br />
** [[http://scademo.com/demo.links.php SCA Demo Website]]<br />
<br />
Merchants<br />
** [[http://www.theringlord.com/ The Ring Lord]] Chainmail Ring Supplier<br />
** [[http://www.nswleather.com/ NSW Leather]] 107-109 Sackville Street, Collingwood VIC, 3066<br />
** [[http://www.leffler.com.au/ Leffler Leather]] 50 -66 York St South Melbourne 3205<br />
** [[http://www.plasticlamellar.com/ Plastic Lamellar]] Armour Plates (USA)<br />
** [[http://www.pacomp.com.au/ Pacific Composites]] possible supplier of Fibreglass Poles<br />
<br />
[[Category:Shires (SCA)|Arrowsreach]]<br />
94034940</div>66.240.221.36https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Stone_carving&diff=30557Stone carving2006-11-26T21:56:29Z<p>66.240.221.36: /* Stone */</p>
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<div>'''Stone Carving''' is the reduction of a block of [[stone]] to a finished state using a variety of [[tool]]s. Procedures of carving processes can be used to create masonry for construction or for decorative purposes or both combined. Stone Carving has evolved slowly; many of the same techniques have been used for millennia. The recent trend to modernization of tools, the use of air guns, computer controlled cutters etc., cannot yet improve upon works finished by hand. Anyone able to swing a [[hammer]] and hold a [[chisel]] at the same time can attempt to carve. The tools required to start are relatively inexpensive and few, and yet to obtain a complete array of tools to run a full size workshop would cost several hundreds of dollars.<br />
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== Stone ==<br />
The stone used is a wide in variety, from igneous to sedimentary, hard to exceptionally soft. The most common stones carved are granite, sandstone, marble, and limestone. Others such as basalt, soapstone, alabaster are also occasionally carved. With certain stone care must be taken not to breathe the resulting dust, especially sandstone and granite which releases silicates that destroy lung tissue. Other stones may contain other dangerous minerals such as asbestos, for example Tigers Eye.<br />
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The choice of stone is predicated upon the necessity of durability, weatherability, color, availability, cost and ease of carving.<br />
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== Necessary tools ==<br />
The most basic tools required are a hammer and chisel. <br />
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[[Hammer]]s come in a variety of shapes weights and sizes and are generally described in units of ounces. The masons hammer has a rectangular flat faced head and a relatively short shaft compared to a framing hammer used in common carpentry. For strong application of energy the face is used, in order to use the mass effectively to transfer smaller amounts of energy the side of the hammer head is used. By adjusting the degree of force the amount of material removed in a single stroke can be modified. The greater the force the larger the amount of material removed and the greater the chance the block will react poorly and split in unforeseen ways. Hammers come in a variety of weights from a few ounces to several pounds. The heavier they are the better for mass removal whereas the lighter are better for fine control. Hammers also are obtainable in two standard materials, [[iron]] and hardened [[steel]]. The hardened steel is for general use on any stone. An iron headed hammer is somewhat softer and is meant for marble which often has a higher fragility so the extra shock absorbation reduces the risk of shattering the stone. [[Mallet]]s are another variety of hammer that are a specialized group that have larger heads that are made out of [[wood]] (general a fruit wood like apple which has extremely strong and close grain) or synthetics. There are two basic styles of mallet, French and English. The French mallet consists of a round drum which the shaft passes through the center of the diameter of the drums altitude. The English mallet is the drum is perpendicular to the shaft. The French mallet is preferable to the English in that it allows finer adjustments in the transfer of energy and is more forgiving when not swung correctly at the chisel base. French mallets are most effective when the chisel is struck with the widest part of the drum which is closer to the shaft. <br />
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Image:mhammer.jpg|A hammer<br />
Image:Englishm.jpg|English Mallet<br />
Image:frenchm.jpg|French Mallet<br />
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The [[chisel]] is obtainable in a wide variety of sizes and shapes for various functions. The major classes of chisels are for use with hammers, or air guns, and mallets.. The two classes of chisel are differentiated by their ends one having a flat surface and the other having a bulb. A chisel intended for a mallet must never be hit with a hammer as the bulb that receives the energy will bloom or flatten out this will then damage the head of the mallet.<br />
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Image:chiselm.jpg|Chisel for mallet<br />
Image:chisel.jpg|Chisel for hammer<br />
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Chisels can further be divided into several other categories. There are chisels intended for various classes of stones. There is one type of chisel especially for marble differentiated by the appearance of a head that has a neck that narrows perceptibly and then widens to the diameter of the shaft. The purpose is to allow sufficient recoil from the blows so that the stone does not simply explode. For harder stones chisels expand straight from the head to base in order to provide more mass to absorb the shock. Chisels must be properly tempered to retain a sharp edge. A sharp chisel is an absolutely necessity. A dull chisel will chatter, producing uneven results and also increase the tendency of the chisel to pluck large chunks from the stone being worked. There are several distinct forms of chisels. They are flat, forked, bullnose, semi circular gouge, point, and blunt. The flat chisel is for finish work. The forked chisel can be used to remove larger amounts of material and can be used to create patterned surfaces. This particular chisel was introduced around the 13th century, being the latest introduction in the chisel family. The bullnose is used to carve convex surfaces. The semi-circular gouge also used for making convex surfaces but of a more complex form. The point is used for breaking large amounts of material away. The blunt is used immediately after a point to reduce the remaining large masses. <br />
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Finally the most important tool for transferring the drawing to the block is the scribe. A very narrow pen-like pointed chisel that is has a hardened tip made of tool steel. This device is used by simply running it along the lines drawn on the block in pencil. Never use pens as the inks may bleed into the stone marring the color of the finished product. Weird but true.<br />
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== Secondary tools ==<br />
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Saws, drills, riffles, French drags, sandpaper,<br />
ruler, square, calipers, dividers, French curve, compass<br />
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=== Saws ===<br />
[[Saw]]s come in a variety of types. Circular saws are generally powered pneumatically or electrically the blades of which are impregnated with diamond chips or dust. There are chainsaws that are also specially designed to use diamond coated blades. Regular crosscut saws are used for sawing soft stones and are recognizable by their enormous teeth and elevated handle which allows the entire blade to sink through a block with out becoming obstructed by the handle. For use with limestone and other soft stone they are a worthwhile investment.<br />
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=== Drills ===<br />
Drills in period were star shaped, hence the name, star-drill. To use you strike forcibly rotate, strike again rotate, until the desired depth is achieved. Modern drills dispense with this monotony and are easier to maintain. Carbide tips and diamond tip bits being readily available for the driver of choice. <br />
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=== Riffles ===<br />
Riffles are basically a type of file that is used for stone. The teeth are widely spaced and raised up higher than a normal file. They are used to get into tight spaces and to finish surfaces. They should be used minimally the chief work being accomplished by the chisel which is a vastly less expensive tool.<br />
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=== French Drags ===<br />
French drags are somewhat the equivalent of the [[plane]] in carpentry. They are used for soft stones and consist of [[blade]]s set at alternating angles, between 15 and 30 degrees, over the length of a block of [[wood]]. The blades are toothed to provide even removal of surface material. Some drags can be fitted with specially shaped blades to follow convex surfaces. It is important to always run a drag towards the center of a block and never out across an edge. These tools are especially useful for final preparation of large surfaces.<br />
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=== Sandpaper ===<br />
Sandpaper comes in a variety of grits and is useful for adjusting the degree of polish on the final surface. Marble in particular benefits from such treatment and it is possible to obtain widely different polishes on a single block that can help differentiate flesh from fabric or other indicated surfaces. <br />
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=== Other ===<br />
The remaining tools while all esentially drafting tools are desirable to have more heavily built and therefore durable tools for use with stone carving. The square, ruler, divider, caliper, compass, and French curve are all used for either measuring an extant piece or laying out the drawing on a block prior to carving. <br />
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=== Drawing ===<br />
Drawing is oddly enough one of the most important skills that one can have for carving. In order to create any really well made sculpture, which adheres to stylistic principles of a genre, one must be able to draw. This skill is useful to visualize patterns in order to guide the carving process so that you may avoid getting lost in the stone and producing something that is a naive and uninformed effort. Drawing also enables one an inexpensive method of exploring how to proceed before making an insurmountable error. Additionally it sharpens the eye and forces the mind to translate from a three dimensional space to a two dimensional space which is useful since frequently the reverse is true when first working a block. Many of the tools used for drawing are listed as tools also for carving since they can be used to transfer the drawings onto the block directly. Templates, made of [[paper]], [[plastic]], or any conveniently shapeable flat material that may be used over an extended period of time, may be used to reproduce portions of a drawing on a block, or, in the case of replication, several blocks or even faces of the same block. This transfer is accomplished by the use of the stylus. It is not a good thing to use a pen or pencil on the stone as it will leaves stains and like as not destroy your writing implement as well. <br />
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== External links ==<br />
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rocks List of rocktypes]<br />
[[category:arts]]</div>66.240.221.36https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Category:Wiki&diff=30556Category:Wiki2006-11-26T21:54:06Z<p>66.240.221.36: </p>
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<div>Pages relating to specific [[wiki]]s, or wikis in general.<br />
188461167107</div>66.240.221.36https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Wiki&diff=30555Wiki2006-11-26T21:53:18Z<p>66.240.221.36: /* Other WikiWebs */</p>
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<div>'''WikiWiki''' is Hawaiian meaning "quick". A WikiWikiWeb is a website that can be edited by all users with the responsibility for accuracy and control resting with the community and not with an individual (such as a webmaster). The [http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki Portland Pattern Repository] was the first wiki, established by Ward Cunningham in 1995.<br />
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[[Cunnan]] is a WikiWikiWeb that was started in March [[2003]] to provide information useful to people interested in [[re-enactment]] of [[Europe]]an society and skills for the [[period]] between [[600]][[AD]] and [[1600]][[AD]]. The software that Cunnan uses is called PediaWiki and more information on it can be found at http://wikipedia.sourceforge.net<br />
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== Other WikiWebs ==<br />
* The [[Wikipedia]] - http://www.wikipedia.org<br />
* [[Arrowsreach Wiki]]<br />
* [http://www.midrealm.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Midrealm wiki]<br />
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[[category:wiki]]<br />
995865437500</div>66.240.221.36https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Cunnan:Wiki_newcomers_hints&diff=30554Cunnan:Wiki newcomers hints2006-11-26T21:49:56Z<p>66.240.221.36: /* FAQ */</p>
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<div>In brief:<br />
*yes, you too can edit pages!<br />
*want to experiment without stuffing up anything? - try the [[Cunnan:sandbox|sandbox]]<br />
*how do I edit pages? - read the guide: [[Cunnan:How_does_one_edit_a_page]]<br />
*remember we have [[copyright rules]]<br />
<br />
=FAQ=<br />
===What can I write about? ===<br />
<br />
Like they say, write what you know. The main page says Cunnan is all about "information for re-enactors of the Middle Ages and Renaissance with a heavy slant towards members of the SCA". If it's useful for re-enactors, write away! This is often explanations of rare words, descriptions of how things were viewed in the medieval world, short medieval histories of people and places, or advice on how to recreate an aspect of history. But don't stop there!<br />
<br />
===But I don't know any history or stuff, what else can I write about===<br />
You could write about experiences, words and practises found in the SCA and other reenactment groups. Also you could pick a random unwritten page on a medieval topic, read a few other good webpages or a few pages of a book on the topic, and give a 3 sentence summary of their content and a link to the pages consulted. You can always ask someone local to you to describe a topic and type in what they say (acknowledging their contribution helps). You'll find out new information,and we will too when you write it here.<br />
<br />
Or you can help by correcting our spelling, adding links and generally tidying up the content of the wiki.<br />
<br />
===How can I ask for help?===<br />
Write a note on the village pump is often quickest and best, or other wise you could email admins. The admins can be found at [[Special:Listadmins]].<br />
<br />
===I want to move a page or do other tricky stuff===<br />
Some features are just hidden a bit - take a better look at what options are available under [[special:special pages|special pages]] in the toolbox on the left of your screen (you may need to scroll down a bit).<br />
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There are a lot more things you can do that are hidden here. But some features such as moving and deleting pages have been restricted to loggged in users, other to admins. This is because we don't want every spammer or vandal who turns up to be able to destroy the wiki (it can be brought back but that's a lot of time that could be spent adding content instead). Stick around for a while, contributing articles and you'll probably get your acess level increased. In the meantime, leave a note in the [[cunnan:village pump|village pump]] saying which page you wanted to move or what else you wanted to do and why (briefly) and the next person with suitable acess will probably fix it for you.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Help|Wiki newcomers hints]]<br />
301737670176</div>66.240.221.36https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Wiki&diff=29555Category talk:Wiki2006-10-08T02:08:36Z<p>66.240.221.36: </p>
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<div>All the pages in this category have a bad link to [[:category:Wiki|this category]]. If clicked, it takes you to the editting version of this page, without the member list of the category. Is Wiki a reserved word for categories? - [[User:Cian|Cian Gillebhrath]] 12:14, 3 May 2006 (EST)<br />
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49322602830</div>66.240.221.36https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Category:Wiki&diff=29553Category:Wiki2006-10-08T02:07:06Z<p>66.240.221.36: </p>
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<div>Pages relating to specific [[wiki]]s, or wikis in general.<br />
725949503991</div>66.240.221.36https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Shire_of_Arrowsreach&diff=29552Shire of Arrowsreach2006-10-08T01:44:23Z<p>66.240.221.36: /* External Links */</p>
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The '''Shire of Arrowsreach''' is the [[SCA]] [[groups|group]] in the [[North eastern suburbs of Melbourne]]. Of course anyone can join any group or subgroup, so not everyone lives in this area, nor does everyone who lives in this area belong to this group, but it will mean events are close to home for people who live in this area.<br />
<br />
While everyone knows it as Arrowsreach, it was infact registered with the [[College of Arms]] as ''Arrowreach''.<br />
<br />
* [[Why Arrowsreach isn't part of Stormhold]].<br />
* [[events in Arrowsreach]]<br />
* History of Arrowsreach - go to their website http://www.arrowsreach.com/<br />
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* Neighbouring SCA Groups<br />
** [[Barony of Stormhold]]<br />
** [[Shire of Krae Glas]]<br />
** [[Shire of Bordescros]]<br />
<br />
* Noted [[household]]s of Arrowreach:<br />
** [[House Saarlands]]<br />
** [[the Axemen]]<br />
<br />
== External Links ==<br />
* Websites of Important people<br />
** [[http://www.portallus.com/people/emlyn/ Emlyn ap Rhys]]<br />
<br />
* Arts and Sciences<br />
** [[http://www.florilegium.org/ Florilegium]]<br />
** [[http://www.heraldicclipart.com/ Heralic Clipart]]<br />
** [[http://shadowmist.hfsinchaos.com/links2.html Links to SCA resources]]<br />
** [[http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/shoe/SHOEHOME.HTM Footware]]<br />
** [[http://www.larp.com/legioxx/ The Twentieth Legion]] Imperial Roman Group.<br />
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* Fighting<br />
** [[http://www.sca.org.au/marshal/ Lochac Marshallate Home Page]]<br />
** [[http://www.bellatrix.org/school/ Bellatrix Fighting School]]<br />
** [[http://www.geocities.com/earlygunnery/ Early Gunnery]]<br />
** [[Polarm Descriptions]]<br />
** [[http://www.armourarchive.org/ Amour Archive]]<br />
** [[http://www.combat-archery.com Combat Archery Website]]<br />
** [[http://www.thelostboys.org/army/equipment.html Equipment Guide]] for Heavy Fighters<br />
** [[http://www.forest.gen.nz/Medieval/articles/garments/Charles_blois/Charles_blois.html Historical Surcoat]] with patterns.<br />
<br />
* Heraldry<br />
** [[http://www.heraldicclipart.com/ Heraldic Clip Art]]<br />
<br />
* Friends that we know<br />
** [[http://www.angevintreasures.com/ Angevin Treasures]]<br />
** [[http://www.angevintreasures.com/wystle/ Master Efenwealt]]<br />
** [[http://sui-001.livejournal.com/ Sui's Wonderful Stuff]]<br />
<br />
Photos Of Stuff<br />
** [[http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Bridge/7900/lcnov02.htm Lochac November Crown AS XXXVII]]<br />
<br />
Other Places of Interest<br />
** [[http://www.crossroads.org.au/ CrossRoads]] A Medieval Villiage in New South Wales.<br />
** [[http://scademo.com/demo.links.php SCA Demo Website]]<br />
<br />
Merchants<br />
** [[http://www.theringlord.com/ The Ring Lord]] Chainmail Ring Supplier<br />
** [[http://www.nswleather.com/ NSW Leather]] 107-109 Sackville Street, Collingwood VIC, 3066<br />
** [[http://www.leffler.com.au/ Leffler Leather]] 50 -66 York St South Melbourne 3205<br />
** [[http://www.plasticlamellar.com/ Plastic Lamellar]] Armour Plates (USA)<br />
** [[http://www.pacomp.com.au/ Pacific Composites]] possible supplier of Fibreglass Poles<br />
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[[Category:Shires (SCA)|Arrowsreach]]<br />
753555535656</div>66.240.221.36https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Cunnan:Wiki_newcomers_hints&diff=29551Cunnan:Wiki newcomers hints2006-10-08T01:44:12Z<p>66.240.221.36: /* FAQ */</p>
<hr />
<div>In brief:<br />
*yes, you too can edit pages!<br />
*want to experiment without stuffing up anything? - try the [[Cunnan:sandbox|sandbox]]<br />
*how do I edit pages? - read the guide: [[Cunnan:How_does_one_edit_a_page]]<br />
*remember we have [[copyright rules]]<br />
<br />
=FAQ=<br />
===What can I write about? ===<br />
<br />
Like they say, write what you know. The main page says Cunnan is all about "information for re-enactors of the Middle Ages and Renaissance with a heavy slant towards members of the SCA". If it's useful for re-enactors, write away! This is often explanations of rare words, descriptions of how things were viewed in the medieval world, short medieval histories of people and places, or advice on how to recreate an aspect of history. But don't stop there!<br />
<br />
===But I don't know any history or stuff, what else can I write about===<br />
You could write about experiences, words and practises found in the SCA and other reenactment groups. Also you could pick a random unwritten page on a medieval topic, read a few other good webpages or a few pages of a book on the topic, and give a 3 sentence summary of their content and a link to the pages consulted. You can always ask someone local to you to describe a topic and type in what they say (acknowledging their contribution helps). You'll find out new information,and we will too when you write it here.<br />
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Or you can help by correcting our spelling, adding links and generally tidying up the content of the wiki.<br />
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===How can I ask for help?===<br />
Write a note on the village pump is often quickest and best, or other wise you could email admins. The admins can be found at [[Special:Listadmins]].<br />
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===I want to move a page or do other tricky stuff===<br />
Some features are just hidden a bit - take a better look at what options are available under [[special:special pages|special pages]] in the toolbox on the left of your screen (you may need to scroll down a bit).<br />
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There are a lot more things you can do that are hidden here. But some features such as moving and deleting pages have been restricted to loggged in users, other to admins. This is because we don't want every spammer or vandal who turns up to be able to destroy the wiki (it can be brought back but that's a lot of time that could be spent adding content instead). Stick around for a while, contributing articles and you'll probably get your acess level increased. In the meantime, leave a note in the [[cunnan:village pump|village pump]] saying which page you wanted to move or what else you wanted to do and why (briefly) and the next person with suitable acess will probably fix it for you.<br />
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[[Category:Help|Wiki newcomers hints]]<br />
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<div>'''WikiWiki''' is Hawaiian meaning "quick". A WikiWikiWeb is a website that can be edited by all users with the responsibility for accuracy and control resting with the community and not with an individual (such as a webmaster). The [http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki Portland Pattern Repository] was the first wiki, established by Ward Cunningham in 1995.<br />
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[[Cunnan]] is a WikiWikiWeb that was started in March [[2003]] to provide information useful to people interested in [[re-enactment]] of [[Europe]]an society and skills for the [[period]] between [[600]][[AD]] and [[1600]][[AD]]. The software that Cunnan uses is called PediaWiki and more information on it can be found at http://wikipedia.sourceforge.net<br />
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== Other WikiWebs ==<br />
* The [[Wikipedia]] - http://www.wikipedia.org<br />
* [[Arrowsreach Wiki]]<br />
* [http://www.midrealm.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Midrealm wiki]<br />
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<div>'''Stone Carving''' is the reduction of a block of [[stone]] to a finished state using a variety of [[tool]]s. Procedures of carving processes can be used to create masonry for construction or for decorative purposes or both combined. Stone Carving has evolved slowly; many of the same techniques have been used for millennia. The recent trend to modernization of tools, the use of air guns, computer controlled cutters etc., cannot yet improve upon works finished by hand. Anyone able to swing a [[hammer]] and hold a [[chisel]] at the same time can attempt to carve. The tools required to start are relatively inexpensive and few, and yet to obtain a complete array of tools to run a full size workshop would cost several hundreds of dollars.<br />
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== Stone ==<br />
The stone used is a wide in variety, from igneous to sedimentary, hard to exceptionally soft. The most common stones carved are granite, sandstone, marble, and limestone. Others such as basalt, soapstone, alabaster are also occasionally carved. With certain stone care must be taken not to breathe the resulting dust, especially sandstone and granite which releases silicates that destroy lung tissue. Other stones may contain other dangerous minerals such as asbestos, for example Tigers Eye.<br />
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The choice of stone is predicated upon the necessity of durability, weatherability, color, availability, cost and ease of carving.<br />
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== Necessary tools ==<br />
The most basic tools required are a hammer and chisel. <br />
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[[Hammer]]s come in a variety of shapes weights and sizes and are generally described in units of ounces. The masons hammer has a rectangular flat faced head and a relatively short shaft compared to a framing hammer used in common carpentry. For strong application of energy the face is used, in order to use the mass effectively to transfer smaller amounts of energy the side of the hammer head is used. By adjusting the degree of force the amount of material removed in a single stroke can be modified. The greater the force the larger the amount of material removed and the greater the chance the block will react poorly and split in unforeseen ways. Hammers come in a variety of weights from a few ounces to several pounds. The heavier they are the better for mass removal whereas the lighter are better for fine control. Hammers also are obtainable in two standard materials, [[iron]] and hardened [[steel]]. The hardened steel is for general use on any stone. An iron headed hammer is somewhat softer and is meant for marble which often has a higher fragility so the extra shock absorbation reduces the risk of shattering the stone. [[Mallet]]s are another variety of hammer that are a specialized group that have larger heads that are made out of [[wood]] (general a fruit wood like apple which has extremely strong and close grain) or synthetics. There are two basic styles of mallet, French and English. The French mallet consists of a round drum which the shaft passes through the center of the diameter of the drums altitude. The English mallet is the drum is perpendicular to the shaft. The French mallet is preferable to the English in that it allows finer adjustments in the transfer of energy and is more forgiving when not swung correctly at the chisel base. French mallets are most effective when the chisel is struck with the widest part of the drum which is closer to the shaft. <br />
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Image:mhammer.jpg|A hammer<br />
Image:Englishm.jpg|English Mallet<br />
Image:frenchm.jpg|French Mallet<br />
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The [[chisel]] is obtainable in a wide variety of sizes and shapes for various functions. The major classes of chisels are for use with hammers, or air guns, and mallets.. The two classes of chisel are differentiated by their ends one having a flat surface and the other having a bulb. A chisel intended for a mallet must never be hit with a hammer as the bulb that receives the energy will bloom or flatten out this will then damage the head of the mallet.<br />
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Image:chiselm.jpg|Chisel for mallet<br />
Image:chisel.jpg|Chisel for hammer<br />
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Chisels can further be divided into several other categories. There are chisels intended for various classes of stones. There is one type of chisel especially for marble differentiated by the appearance of a head that has a neck that narrows perceptibly and then widens to the diameter of the shaft. The purpose is to allow sufficient recoil from the blows so that the stone does not simply explode. For harder stones chisels expand straight from the head to base in order to provide more mass to absorb the shock. Chisels must be properly tempered to retain a sharp edge. A sharp chisel is an absolutely necessity. A dull chisel will chatter, producing uneven results and also increase the tendency of the chisel to pluck large chunks from the stone being worked. There are several distinct forms of chisels. They are flat, forked, bullnose, semi circular gouge, point, and blunt. The flat chisel is for finish work. The forked chisel can be used to remove larger amounts of material and can be used to create patterned surfaces. This particular chisel was introduced around the 13th century, being the latest introduction in the chisel family. The bullnose is used to carve convex surfaces. The semi-circular gouge also used for making convex surfaces but of a more complex form. The point is used for breaking large amounts of material away. The blunt is used immediately after a point to reduce the remaining large masses. <br />
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Finally the most important tool for transferring the drawing to the block is the scribe. A very narrow pen-like pointed chisel that is has a hardened tip made of tool steel. This device is used by simply running it along the lines drawn on the block in pencil. Never use pens as the inks may bleed into the stone marring the color of the finished product. Weird but true.<br />
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== Secondary tools ==<br />
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Saws, drills, riffles, French drags, sandpaper,<br />
ruler, square, calipers, dividers, French curve, compass<br />
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=== Saws ===<br />
[[Saw]]s come in a variety of types. Circular saws are generally powered pneumatically or electrically the blades of which are impregnated with diamond chips or dust. There are chainsaws that are also specially designed to use diamond coated blades. Regular crosscut saws are used for sawing soft stones and are recognizable by their enormous teeth and elevated handle which allows the entire blade to sink through a block with out becoming obstructed by the handle. For use with limestone and other soft stone they are a worthwhile investment.<br />
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=== Drills ===<br />
Drills in period were star shaped, hence the name, star-drill. To use you strike forcibly rotate, strike again rotate, until the desired depth is achieved. Modern drills dispense with this monotony and are easier to maintain. Carbide tips and diamond tip bits being readily available for the driver of choice. <br />
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=== Riffles ===<br />
Riffles are basically a type of file that is used for stone. The teeth are widely spaced and raised up higher than a normal file. They are used to get into tight spaces and to finish surfaces. They should be used minimally the chief work being accomplished by the chisel which is a vastly less expensive tool.<br />
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=== French Drags ===<br />
French drags are somewhat the equivalent of the [[plane]] in carpentry. They are used for soft stones and consist of [[blade]]s set at alternating angles, between 15 and 30 degrees, over the length of a block of [[wood]]. The blades are toothed to provide even removal of surface material. Some drags can be fitted with specially shaped blades to follow convex surfaces. It is important to always run a drag towards the center of a block and never out across an edge. These tools are especially useful for final preparation of large surfaces.<br />
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=== Sandpaper ===<br />
Sandpaper comes in a variety of grits and is useful for adjusting the degree of polish on the final surface. Marble in particular benefits from such treatment and it is possible to obtain widely different polishes on a single block that can help differentiate flesh from fabric or other indicated surfaces. <br />
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=== Other ===<br />
The remaining tools while all esentially drafting tools are desirable to have more heavily built and therefore durable tools for use with stone carving. The square, ruler, divider, caliper, compass, and French curve are all used for either measuring an extant piece or laying out the drawing on a block prior to carving. <br />
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=== Drawing ===<br />
Drawing is oddly enough one of the most important skills that one can have for carving. In order to create any really well made sculpture, which adheres to stylistic principles of a genre, one must be able to draw. This skill is useful to visualize patterns in order to guide the carving process so that you may avoid getting lost in the stone and producing something that is a naive and uninformed effort. Drawing also enables one an inexpensive method of exploring how to proceed before making an insurmountable error. Additionally it sharpens the eye and forces the mind to translate from a three dimensional space to a two dimensional space which is useful since frequently the reverse is true when first working a block. Many of the tools used for drawing are listed as tools also for carving since they can be used to transfer the drawings onto the block directly. Templates, made of [[paper]], [[plastic]], or any conveniently shapeable flat material that may be used over an extended period of time, may be used to reproduce portions of a drawing on a block, or, in the case of replication, several blocks or even faces of the same block. This transfer is accomplished by the use of the stylus. It is not a good thing to use a pen or pencil on the stone as it will leaves stains and like as not destroy your writing implement as well. <br />
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== External links ==<br />
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rocks List of rocktypes]<br />
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<div>In brief:<br />
*yes, you too can edit pages!<br />
*want to experiment without stuffing up anything? - try the [[Cunnan:sandbox|sandbox]]<br />
*how do I edit pages? - read the guide: [[Cunnan:How_does_one_edit_a_page]]<br />
*remember we have [[copyright rules]]<br />
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=FAQ=<br />
===What can I write about? ===<br />
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Like they say, write what you know. The main page says Cunnan is all about "information for re-enactors of the Middle Ages and Renaissance with a heavy slant towards members of the SCA". If it's useful for re-enactors, write away! This is often explanations of rare words, descriptions of how things were viewed in the medieval world, short medieval histories of people and places, or advice on how to recreate an aspect of history. But don't stop there!<br />
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===But I don't know any history or stuff, what else can I write about===<br />
You could write about experiences, words and practises found in the SCA and other reenactment groups. Also you could pick a random unwritten page on a medieval topic, read a few other good webpages or a few pages of a book on the topic, and give a 3 sentence summary of their content and a link to the pages consulted. You can always ask someone local to you to describe a topic and type in what they say (acknowledging their contribution helps). You'll find out new information,and we will too when you write it here.<br />
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Or you can help by correcting our spelling, adding links and generally tidying up the content of the wiki.<br />
<br />
===How can I ask for help?===<br />
Write a note on the village pump is often quickest and best, or other wise you could email admins. The admins can be found at [[Special:Listadmins]].<br />
<br />
===I want to move a page or do other tricky stuff===<br />
Some features are just hidden a bit - take a better look at what options are available under [[special:special pages|special pages]] in the toolbox on the left of your screen (you may need to scroll down a bit).<br />
<br />
There are a lot more things you can do that are hidden here. But some features such as moving and deleting pages have been restricted to loggged in users, other to admins. This is because we don't want every spammer or vandal who turns up to be able to destroy the wiki (it can be brought back but that's a lot of time that could be spent adding content instead). Stick around for a while, contributing articles and you'll probably get your acess level increased. In the meantime, leave a note in the [[cunnan:village pump|village pump]] saying which page you wanted to move or what else you wanted to do and why (briefly) and the next person with suitable acess will probably fix it for you.<br />
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[[Category:Help|Wiki newcomers hints]]<br />
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<div>All the pages in this category have a bad link to [[:category:Wiki|this category]]. If clicked, it takes you to the editting version of this page, without the member list of the category. Is Wiki a reserved word for categories? - [[User:Cian|Cian Gillebhrath]] 12:14, 3 May 2006 (EST)<br />
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