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<p>Thephlapbadhu: </p> <hr /> <div>Alfred was captured and killed whilst in Godwins custody by blinding (although not on Godwins land) - an act that may have led to Edward offering the crown to william as he hated Godwin and wanted to ensure he didnt succeed him. Godwin was clearly the next most powerful man in england. Edward may also have promised the throne as reward for william sponsoring his accession to the throne. <br /> <br /> He had a childless marriage again, possibly because he hated Godwin and would not see one of his line on the throne. <br /> <br /> The godwins were exiled after Edwards cousin (a norman) went to Dover for reasons unknown and the locals rose up against him. Godwin was summoned and instructed to punish them and he refused and summoned an army and marched on gloucester i beleive. After a standoff the godwins agreed to exile ( a common theme in english politics).<br /> <br /> Harolds oath swearing is largely a myth given the fact that history from this period was written by the victors. Harolds visit to Normany was probably to visit one of his his brothers and a cousin who were hostages in williams hands exchanged to ensure the loyaly of godwin to edwin the confessor on his attaining the throne. An oath may have been sworn under duress as Harold might not have been allowed to leave until he did and he would have been fearful of the treatment of his borther and cousin. The story that harold got lost on the way over and was held for ransom by a rival of williams does not make any sense.<br /> <br /> Harold did not seize the throne at all but was elected by the Witan. He even secured the support of edwin and morcar, rivals of the godwins, by marrying their sister and agreeing that any child of that union would be first in line to succeed him.</div>

Thephlapbadhu https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Talk:Edward_the_Exile&diff=38716 2008-11-09T00:45:30Z

<p>Thephlapbadhu: edward the exile</p> <hr /> <div>AAAAAAAAArgh!<br /> He was NOT Edward Atheling- he was known as Edward the Exile. Atheling does not mean &quot;Exile&quot; it means &quot;nobly born&quot; or &quot;royally born&quot;. His son was Edgar the Atheling. I suggest deleting this stub and redoing it altogether. [[User:Streona|Streona]] 09:46, 1 December 2007 (EST)<br /> <br /> == edward the exile ==<br /> <br /> he is often referred to as atheling as well as exile and you are right that atheling or aetheling refers to noble blood- although it always (in my experience) refers to males in line to the throne and so 'prince' might be more appropriate.<br /> Edwards cause of death is unknown. he was old and so it may have been natural causes or william the bastard may have gotten wind of edward (the confessor's) change in plans regarding the succession and had him bumped off as Edward had to travel from Hungary, where he was living. <br /> <br /> His son, Edgar was later pronounced king by the witan after harold godwinson fell at hastings but there is no evidence he was ever crowned. he was, however, a focal point of the english reisistance movement until it was crushed by 1071.<br /> Harold Gowdinson didn't seize the throne and there is no evidence to suggest he had designs to take it. scholars generally agree he was behind seeking out edward the exile to take the throne and it was, after all the return of the godwins from exile that led to normans being expelled and a change in Edwards choice of succession. Edward had appointed normans to prominant positions and norman castles has already been built and were garrisoned by norman troops in england prior to the conquest. Harold was elected by the witan.</div>

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