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		<title>Bible</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: farkle&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Christians view of &#039;God&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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it comes in 2 parts, an old testimate, and a new. &lt;br /&gt;
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it is based ona story that &#039;god&#039; sent himself to earth approx 2000 years ago, and what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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it has many fables and stories, and lots of names. it is a good set of moral values to live by, but boils down to &#039;[[love thy neighbour]]&#039; and &#039;[[do unto others]]&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Main Page</title>
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		<updated>2003-10-10T02:37:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: shouldn&amp;#039;t this be in village plump&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Cunnan Focus?==&lt;br /&gt;
Is this a medieval reenactment wiki or an SCA wiki?  The whole thing looks like it has been set up presuming that the SCA way of doing things is the only way it is done.&lt;br /&gt;
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So which is the truth?  Is it a badly-designed medieval reenactment wiki or is it a SCA wiki that misrepresents itself as a medieval reenactment wiki?&lt;br /&gt;
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: It&#039;s a medieval reenactment wiki, plain and simple, but wikis always reflect the people who contribute to them. Currently, the only contributors (as far as I know) are people from the SCA, so the design, content, the main page, and opinions are all SCA oriented. We write what we know. If you&#039;d like to add non-SCA content, please go right ahead. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]] 11:36, 15 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, it was, way back when we started, a medieval reenactment wiki, and it still is but (almost?) everyone who contributes is in the [[SCA]]. I&#039;d be willing to change the explanation on the front page if people think its misleading. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 12:23, 15 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Arts &amp;amp; Sciences==&lt;br /&gt;
Okie dokie, re the crafts/sciences. What would you have things such as [[astronomy]] under? It could be argued that there are no arts in the SCA only crafts (or the emulation of period art, at any rate). I&#039;ll agree that no &#039;&#039;true&#039;&#039; science in done in the SCA but there are certainly people who apply themselves to the study of period sciences. &lt;br /&gt;
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Feel free to tell me I&#039;m wrong (is this the first wiki argument? ;-) - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 14:10 6 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:- Tobin: *I* feel that there&#039;s a number of people who do the &#039;crafts&#039; of olde, and VERY few who actually do [[astronomy]] - and then they aren&#039;t doing the science of it, mearly recreating the &#039;elements&#039; that were developed.&lt;br /&gt;
:Why not leave it as craft and see how many people actually object ? never hurt to irritate anyone :)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Point taken but there are people that do astronomy and I dont think it should be thought of as a craft. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::When more than 3 people use test tubes and actually reinvent the wheel, rather than just follow someonelses work - sold. till then No Dice. The SCA does Crafts.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Follow someone else&#039;s work vs. reinventing the wheel? I think it&#039;s important to distinguish between science and scientific discoveries. Nobody&#039;s claiming to be making scientific discoveries - these have already been made. Think about it like Crafts - nobody&#039;s inventing new ways of doing things - we&#039;re trying to recreate what was done before. We&#039;re investigating science as it was done during the middle ages. I enjoy researching medieval cryptography - it doesn&#039;t mean that I have to invent new methods of frequency analysis. Also, and more importantly, Arts, Crafts &amp;amp; Sciences is a pain to say. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]] 11:22 11 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Arts &amp;amp; Sciences (again)==&lt;br /&gt;
A google search reveals something in the region of 1,500 results for &amp;quot;sca &amp;quot;arts and crafts&amp;quot;&amp;quot; but more than 7,500 results for &amp;quot;sca &amp;quot;arts and sciences&amp;quot;&amp;quot;. I&#039;ve never met an A &amp;amp; C officer and doubt I ever will (even if that is a more accurate term. Shoule we start calling all [[constable]]s &amp;quot;order enforcing people&amp;quot; just because some people think &amp;quot;constable&amp;quot; suggests that they are part of the police force?)&lt;br /&gt;
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The point I&#039;m trying to make is that, regardless of accuracy, people say A &amp;amp; S not A &amp;amp; C (if you were searching for A &amp;amp; S stuff on the web which would be seaching for?) If the SCA &#039;&#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039;&#039; a game then it really doesn&#039;t matter but there is no point in being non-standard. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 21:29, 25 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Newt|Newt]]: Well let&#039;s start a trend, Tobin! We can slowly change the SCA to &#039;&#039;our&#039;&#039; way of thinking. Hmm.. I see what you&#039;re saying but I think with regards to the wiki we&#039;re just looking for ways of grouping topics nicely. There&#039;s nothing much to put under &#039;sciences&#039;, but you can very easily split up our &#039;arts&#039; (which is currently damn huge) into &#039;arts&#039; and &#039;crafts&#039;. Re: knowne worlde handbooke... Sui does have a point!&lt;br /&gt;
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:That sounds exactly like something sui would say ;-) It doesn&#039;t worry me if we add in a Crafts topic but taking out the sciences link (or going through that whole pointless &amp;quot;Crafts (&amp;quot;sciences&amp;quot;)&amp;quot; thing again would be a bad thing, IMO. Split up the Arts link if you want and then add Crafts to the main page. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 10:23, 27 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Arts and Sciences (yet again)==&lt;br /&gt;
I can see we&#039;re about to have this argument again. Reading what was said in the previous arguments, I&#039;ll not change it back right now but, the fact remains people say A &amp;amp; S not A &amp;amp; C (&amp;quot;correctness&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t enter into it, this is an SCA wiki and in the SCA people say A &amp;amp; S) - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 14:00, 26 Sep 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:yes.. and americans are ALWAYS right about everything..  *sigh* glad to see that u can atleast accept change though Tobin.  Now can the hard link from craft -&amp;gt; science, be removed? they are different!  - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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::The link isn&#039;t hard, any logged in user remove it. The link goes from Crafts to [[Sciences]] not [[science]]. Also using Arts and crafts on the main page means that anyone searching google for Arts and Sciences (which would be most going on the number of hits google returns) wont find Cunnan&lt;br /&gt;
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::I intend to change the link back from Crafts to sciences. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;BE bold&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this statement should be removed from the front page.  Anytime i have been bold or attempted anything slightly .. erm.. off beat.. it has been quickly slapped down, and yes i am going to single Morgant out here.  Either have the policy that this is to be dry and humorless and a totally informational database only or allow it to be more &#039;open&#039; - of course, and this is an amazing idea - u could have BOTH!!&lt;br /&gt;
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So the choice - I believe - is everyone, how do u want your WIKI to be? &lt;br /&gt;
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as u can guess i&#039;d like it to be more &#039;interesting&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:We want people to be bold as in adding content not as in making changes that run against the majority. I Agree SCA science isn&#039;t real science but the majority of the SCA still call it science (this is an SCA wiki).&lt;br /&gt;
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:I never said that the wiki was supposed to be a place or mirth and merryment. In fact the whole thing started so I would have a place to put what I know about the SCA. The software is free the content is open. You&#039;re welcome to start your own wiki. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::In fact I wasn&#039;t even discussing the science thing.. It was more a general &#039;thing&#039;. but point taken. If i wanna add content &#039;dry and humorless it is&#039; - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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*Given that I&#039;m singled out, I guess I should probably reply. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever slapped anyone down - I have, however, edited some pretty weird stuff. I&#039;d like Cunnan to be useful, with a polished, edited look. Articles should be useful before they&#039;re funny - if you can do both, that&#039;s great, if you can&#039;t, don&#039;t. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Styles of articles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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With the above responses, how about we agree to dissgree? &lt;br /&gt;
Morgant wants polished articles, dry and informational, whilst I want interesting and informational articles.&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we compromise, and do both, and aside from grammer [without changing the whole article] or spelling [which morgant does a great job of tidying up] how&#039;s about we leave the other articles alone?&lt;br /&gt;
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there IS a certain amount of &#039;ownership&#039; in having authored something, and if you wish to ADD to an article then go for it, but leave the orginal artical in place?  this being a wiki, and us having a &#039;gentlemans agreement&#039; about such things sound make for much better content and enjoyment all round - and redduce the .. erm.. &#039;bickering&#039; ? - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
*Here&#039;s how I feel about this - if everybody restricted themselves to their own articles, this wouldn&#039;t be a wiki. If an article is inaccurate, inappropriate, or otherwise lacking, it should be edited. Not doing so would make for worse, not better content. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Then unlock the page(s) you have locked, and accept my editing in return.  _ Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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::::There is a single protected page on the wiki, the Main Page. I protected it because the consensus is, or appears to me and the other admins I&#039;ve spoken to, that Sciences, regardless of accuracy, is the term used in the SCA. You&#039;re welcome to edit what you like but page protection and database locks are used from time to time when someone insists upon making a change that runs contary to consensus (corretion of common misconceptions does not come under this) - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: &amp;quot; [[User:Morgant|Morgant]] &amp;quot; - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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== front page counter ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it working? i have been doing 15-20 articles a day and yesterday it went up 1...&lt;br /&gt;
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you might wanna check it &lt;br /&gt;
- Ben&lt;br /&gt;
:Last time I looked into it, the MediaWiki page count tag only counts articles of a significant size. (D&#039;you know what it is, Tobin?) I&#039;m guessing that Ben&#039;s 15-20 articles are predominantly short dictionary-style entries (which Cunnan should avoid, really), and they&#039;re not counting towards the total. Once they&#039;re expanded, they&#039;ll be included in the total. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:The articles need to be of some length (one line jokes and short dictionary style stuff wont be counted). They also need to contain at least one link. I&#039;ll have to check what the minimum length is. Also, if you&#039;re not logged in you might be served a cached copy of the page. I&#039;ll be moving this conversation to the village pump when I have time. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Dictionary-style entries==&lt;br /&gt;
Out of curiosity, why should dictionary-style entries be avoided? What if you can concisely explain something in 25 words or less (and include a link in it! e.g. [[acro-narcotic]])? The way I see a wiki to be, it&#039;s like a cross between a dictionary and an encyclopedia anyway: it&#039;s a quick and efficient way of obtaining information. And so, if I enounter a technical word in an article I want to be able to click on it and get a _brief_ explanation first.. and if people want to later they can add 10 pages of history and detailed description to it, and that&#039;s cool. Short, dictionary-style entries are a good building block to more complex, detailed entries. Feel free to convince me otherwise. - [[User:Newt|Newt]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I say they are often useful, however they are more a definition, than an article - they contain little information.  If I looked up acro-narcotic and found a definition i might be happy, and I might not care if the article only had a definiition, and no examples.  But if I looked up lemon and got only &amp;quot;a yellow fruit of the citrus family&amp;quot; I&#039;d wonder why I bothered linking to it.  And as a really useful wiki, i&#039;d say It&#039;s the longer articles that define it.  Just personal opinion - ie that I&#039;d only count longer articles in the article count, but I&#039;m happy with the short articles as definitions of tricky words or starting inspiration points for articles. [[User:Tiff|Tiff]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Whee! That got away quickly. By &amp;quot;short dictionary-style entries&amp;quot; I meant articles that consist of a definition with no re-enactment content or application, especially stuff lifted straight out of online dictionaries. I do think that making a stub article for further expansion, or defining technical or [http://www.sca.org.au/cunnan/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&amp;amp;target=Middle_English medieval] words &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;are&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; good things - defining what a duck is, not so much. There are other wikis to do that. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:: There are other website devoted to Medjeeval all round. hasn&#039;t stopped u guys.  Morgant i defined &#039;duck&#039; because i was working from the most wanted articles list. I have reduced that list considerably. if some of them are basic entries deal. (as for lifting them, i haven&#039;t done that in a while - and if i do, i change it)- Ben&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Main Page</title>
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		<updated>2003-10-02T08:21:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Cunnan Focus?==&lt;br /&gt;
Is this a medieval reenactment wiki or an SCA wiki?  The whole thing looks like it has been set up presuming that the SCA way of doing things is the only way it is done.&lt;br /&gt;
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So which is the truth?  Is it a badly-designed medieval reenactment wiki or is it a SCA wiki that misrepresents itself as a medieval reenactment wiki?&lt;br /&gt;
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: It&#039;s a medieval reenactment wiki, plain and simple, but wikis always reflect the people who contribute to them. Currently, the only contributors (as far as I know) are people from the SCA, so the design, content, the main page, and opinions are all SCA oriented. We write what we know. If you&#039;d like to add non-SCA content, please go right ahead. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]] 11:36, 15 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, it was, way back when we started, a medieval reenactment wiki, and it still is but (almost?) everyone who contributes is in the [[SCA]]. I&#039;d be willing to change the explanation on the front page if people think its misleading. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 12:23, 15 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Arts &amp;amp; Sciences==&lt;br /&gt;
Okie dokie, re the crafts/sciences. What would you have things such as [[astronomy]] under? It could be argued that there are no arts in the SCA only crafts (or the emulation of period art, at any rate). I&#039;ll agree that no &#039;&#039;true&#039;&#039; science in done in the SCA but there are certainly people who apply themselves to the study of period sciences. &lt;br /&gt;
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Feel free to tell me I&#039;m wrong (is this the first wiki argument? ;-) - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 14:10 6 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:- Tobin: *I* feel that there&#039;s a number of people who do the &#039;crafts&#039; of olde, and VERY few who actually do [[astronomy]] - and then they aren&#039;t doing the science of it, mearly recreating the &#039;elements&#039; that were developed.&lt;br /&gt;
:Why not leave it as craft and see how many people actually object ? never hurt to irritate anyone :)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Point taken but there are people that do astronomy and I dont think it should be thought of as a craft. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::When more than 3 people use test tubes and actually reinvent the wheel, rather than just follow someonelses work - sold. till then No Dice. The SCA does Crafts.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Follow someone else&#039;s work vs. reinventing the wheel? I think it&#039;s important to distinguish between science and scientific discoveries. Nobody&#039;s claiming to be making scientific discoveries - these have already been made. Think about it like Crafts - nobody&#039;s inventing new ways of doing things - we&#039;re trying to recreate what was done before. We&#039;re investigating science as it was done during the middle ages. I enjoy researching medieval cryptography - it doesn&#039;t mean that I have to invent new methods of frequency analysis. Also, and more importantly, Arts, Crafts &amp;amp; Sciences is a pain to say. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]] 11:22 11 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Arts &amp;amp; Sciences (again)==&lt;br /&gt;
A google search reveals something in the region of 1,500 results for &amp;quot;sca &amp;quot;arts and crafts&amp;quot;&amp;quot; but more than 7,500 results for &amp;quot;sca &amp;quot;arts and sciences&amp;quot;&amp;quot;. I&#039;ve never met an A &amp;amp; C officer and doubt I ever will (even if that is a more accurate term. Shoule we start calling all [[constable]]s &amp;quot;order enforcing people&amp;quot; just because some people think &amp;quot;constable&amp;quot; suggests that they are part of the police force?)&lt;br /&gt;
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The point I&#039;m trying to make is that, regardless of accuracy, people say A &amp;amp; S not A &amp;amp; C (if you were searching for A &amp;amp; S stuff on the web which would be seaching for?) If the SCA &#039;&#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039;&#039; a game then it really doesn&#039;t matter but there is no point in being non-standard. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 21:29, 25 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Newt|Newt]]: Well let&#039;s start a trend, Tobin! We can slowly change the SCA to &#039;&#039;our&#039;&#039; way of thinking. Hmm.. I see what you&#039;re saying but I think with regards to the wiki we&#039;re just looking for ways of grouping topics nicely. There&#039;s nothing much to put under &#039;sciences&#039;, but you can very easily split up our &#039;arts&#039; (which is currently damn huge) into &#039;arts&#039; and &#039;crafts&#039;. Re: knowne worlde handbooke... Sui does have a point!&lt;br /&gt;
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:That sounds exactly like something sui would say ;-) It doesn&#039;t worry me if we add in a Crafts topic but taking out the sciences link (or going through that whole pointless &amp;quot;Crafts (&amp;quot;sciences&amp;quot;)&amp;quot; thing again would be a bad thing, IMO. Split up the Arts link if you want and then add Crafts to the main page. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 10:23, 27 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Arts and Sciences (yet again)==&lt;br /&gt;
I can see we&#039;re about to have this argument again. Reading what was said in the previous arguments, I&#039;ll not change it back right now but, the fact remains people say A &amp;amp; S not A &amp;amp; C (&amp;quot;correctness&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t enter into it, this is an SCA wiki and in the SCA people say A &amp;amp; S) - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 14:00, 26 Sep 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:yes.. and americans are ALWAYS right about everything..  *sigh* glad to see that u can atleast accept change though Tobin.  Now can the hard link from craft -&amp;gt; science, be removed? they are different!  - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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::The link isn&#039;t hard, any logged in user remove it. The link goes from Crafts to [[Sciences]] not [[science]]. Also using Arts and crafts on the main page means that anyone searching google for Arts and Sciences (which would be most going on the number of hits google returns) wont find Cunnan&lt;br /&gt;
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::I intend to change the link back from Crafts to sciences. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;BE bold&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this statement should be removed from the front page.  Anytime i have been bold or attempted anything slightly .. erm.. off beat.. it has been quickly slapped down, and yes i am going to single Morgant out here.  Either have the policy that this is to be dry and humorless and a totally informational database only or allow it to be more &#039;open&#039; - of course, and this is an amazing idea - u could have BOTH!!&lt;br /&gt;
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So the choice - I believe - is everyone, how do u want your WIKI to be? &lt;br /&gt;
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as u can guess i&#039;d like it to be more &#039;interesting&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:We want people to be bold as in adding content not as in making changes that run against the majority. I Agree SCA science isn&#039;t real science but the majority of the SCA still call it science (this is an SCA wiki).&lt;br /&gt;
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:I never said that the wiki was supposed to be a place or mirth and merryment. In fact the whole thing started so I would have a place to put what I know about the SCA. The software is free the content is open. You&#039;re welcome to start your own wiki. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::In fact I wasn&#039;t even discussing the science thing.. It was more a general &#039;thing&#039;. but point taken. If i wanna add content &#039;dry and humorless it is&#039; - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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*Given that I&#039;m singled out, I guess I should probably reply. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever slapped anyone down - I have, however, edited some pretty weird stuff. I&#039;d like Cunnan to be useful, with a polished, edited look. Articles should be useful before they&#039;re funny - if you can do both, that&#039;s great, if you can&#039;t, don&#039;t. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Styles of articles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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With the above responses, how about we agree to dissgree? &lt;br /&gt;
Morgant wants polished articles, dry and informational, whilst I want interesting and informational articles.&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we compromise, and do both, and aside from grammer [without changing the whole article] or spelling [which morgant does a great job of tidying up] how&#039;s about we leave the other articles alone?&lt;br /&gt;
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there IS a certain amount of &#039;ownership&#039; in having authored something, and if you wish to ADD to an article then go for it, but leave the orginal artical in place?  this being a wiki, and us having a &#039;gentlemans agreement&#039; about such things sound make for much better content and enjoyment all round - and redduce the .. erm.. &#039;bickering&#039; ? - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
*Here&#039;s how I feel about this - if everybody restricted themselves to their own articles, this wouldn&#039;t be a wiki. If an article is inaccurate, inappropriate, or otherwise lacking, it should be edited. Not doing so would make for worse, not better content. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Then unlock the page(s) you have locked, and accept my editing in return.  _ Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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::::There is a single protected page on the wiki, the Main Page. I protected it because the consensus is, or appears to me and the other admins I&#039;ve spoken to, that Sciences, regardless of accuracy, is the term used in the SCA. You&#039;re welcome to edit what you like but page protection and database locks are used from time to time when someone insists upon making a change that runs contary to consensus (corretion of common misconceptions does not come under this) - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: &amp;quot; [[User:Morgant|Morgant]] &amp;quot; - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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== front page counter ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it working? i have been doing 15-20 articles a day and yesterday it went up 1...&lt;br /&gt;
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you might wanna check it &lt;br /&gt;
- Ben&lt;br /&gt;
:Last time I looked into it, the MediaWiki page count tag only counts articles of a significant size. (D&#039;you know what it is, Tobin?) I&#039;m guessing that Ben&#039;s 15-20 articles are predominantly short dictionary-style entries (which Cunnan should avoid, really), and they&#039;re not counting towards the total. Once they&#039;re expanded, they&#039;ll be included in the total. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:The articles need to be of some length (one line jokes and short dictionary style stuff wont be counted). They also need to contain at least one link. I&#039;ll have to check what the minimum length is. Also, if you&#039;re not logged in you might be served a cached copy of the page. I&#039;ll be moving this conversation to the village pump when I have time. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&amp;diff=1725</id>
		<title>Talk:Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&amp;diff=1725"/>
		<updated>2003-10-01T06:33:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Cunnan Focus?==&lt;br /&gt;
Is this a medieval reenactment wiki or an SCA wiki?  The whole thing looks like it has been set up presuming that the SCA way of doing things is the only way it is done.&lt;br /&gt;
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So which is the truth?  Is it a badly-designed medieval reenactment wiki or is it a SCA wiki that misrepresents itself as a medieval reenactment wiki?&lt;br /&gt;
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: It&#039;s a medieval reenactment wiki, plain and simple, but wikis always reflect the people who contribute to them. Currently, the only contributors (as far as I know) are people from the SCA, so the design, content, the main page, and opinions are all SCA oriented. We write what we know. If you&#039;d like to add non-SCA content, please go right ahead. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]] 11:36, 15 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, it was, way back when we started, a medieval reenactment wiki, and it still is but (almost?) everyone who contributes is in the [[SCA]]. I&#039;d be willing to change the explanation on the front page if people think its misleading. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 12:23, 15 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Arts &amp;amp; Sciences==&lt;br /&gt;
Okie dokie, re the crafts/sciences. What would you have things such as [[astronomy]] under? It could be argued that there are no arts in the SCA only crafts (or the emulation of period art, at any rate). I&#039;ll agree that no &#039;&#039;true&#039;&#039; science in done in the SCA but there are certainly people who apply themselves to the study of period sciences. &lt;br /&gt;
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Feel free to tell me I&#039;m wrong (is this the first wiki argument? ;-) - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 14:10 6 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:- Tobin: *I* feel that there&#039;s a number of people who do the &#039;crafts&#039; of olde, and VERY few who actually do [[astronomy]] - and then they aren&#039;t doing the science of it, mearly recreating the &#039;elements&#039; that were developed.&lt;br /&gt;
:Why not leave it as craft and see how many people actually object ? never hurt to irritate anyone :)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Point taken but there are people that do astronomy and I dont think it should be thought of as a craft. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::When more than 3 people use test tubes and actually reinvent the wheel, rather than just follow someonelses work - sold. till then No Dice. The SCA does Crafts.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Follow someone else&#039;s work vs. reinventing the wheel? I think it&#039;s important to distinguish between science and scientific discoveries. Nobody&#039;s claiming to be making scientific discoveries - these have already been made. Think about it like Crafts - nobody&#039;s inventing new ways of doing things - we&#039;re trying to recreate what was done before. We&#039;re investigating science as it was done during the middle ages. I enjoy researching medieval cryptography - it doesn&#039;t mean that I have to invent new methods of frequency analysis. Also, and more importantly, Arts, Crafts &amp;amp; Sciences is a pain to say. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]] 11:22 11 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Arts &amp;amp; Sciences (again)==&lt;br /&gt;
A google search reveals something in the region of 1,500 results for &amp;quot;sca &amp;quot;arts and crafts&amp;quot;&amp;quot; but more than 7,500 results for &amp;quot;sca &amp;quot;arts and sciences&amp;quot;&amp;quot;. I&#039;ve never met an A &amp;amp; C officer and doubt I ever will (even if that is a more accurate term. Shoule we start calling all [[constable]]s &amp;quot;order enforcing people&amp;quot; just because some people think &amp;quot;constable&amp;quot; suggests that they are part of the police force?)&lt;br /&gt;
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The point I&#039;m trying to make is that, regardless of accuracy, people say A &amp;amp; S not A &amp;amp; C (if you were searching for A &amp;amp; S stuff on the web which would be seaching for?) If the SCA &#039;&#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039;&#039; a game then it really doesn&#039;t matter but there is no point in being non-standard. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 21:29, 25 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Newt|Newt]]: Well let&#039;s start a trend, Tobin! We can slowly change the SCA to &#039;&#039;our&#039;&#039; way of thinking. Hmm.. I see what you&#039;re saying but I think with regards to the wiki we&#039;re just looking for ways of grouping topics nicely. There&#039;s nothing much to put under &#039;sciences&#039;, but you can very easily split up our &#039;arts&#039; (which is currently damn huge) into &#039;arts&#039; and &#039;crafts&#039;. Re: knowne worlde handbooke... Sui does have a point!&lt;br /&gt;
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:That sounds exactly like something sui would say ;-) It doesn&#039;t worry me if we add in a Crafts topic but taking out the sciences link (or going through that whole pointless &amp;quot;Crafts (&amp;quot;sciences&amp;quot;)&amp;quot; thing again would be a bad thing, IMO. Split up the Arts link if you want and then add Crafts to the main page. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 10:23, 27 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Arts and Sciences (yet again)==&lt;br /&gt;
I can see we&#039;re about to have this argument again. Reading what was said in the previous arguments, I&#039;ll not change it back right now but, the fact remains people say A &amp;amp; S not A &amp;amp; C (&amp;quot;correctness&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t enter into it, this is an SCA wiki and in the SCA people say A &amp;amp; S) - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 14:00, 26 Sep 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:yes.. and americans are ALWAYS right about everything..  *sigh* glad to see that u can atleast accept change though Tobin.  Now can the hard link from craft -&amp;gt; science, be removed? they are different!  - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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::The link isn&#039;t hard, any logged in user remove it. The link goes from Crafts to [[Sciences]] not [[science]]. Also using Arts and crafts on the main page means that anyone searching google for Arts and Sciences (which would be most going on the number of hits google returns) wont find Cunnan&lt;br /&gt;
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::I intend to change the link back from Crafts to sciences. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;BE bold&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this statement should be removed from the front page.  Anytime i have been bold or attempted anything slightly .. erm.. off beat.. it has been quickly slapped down, and yes i am going to single Morgant out here.  Either have the policy that this is to be dry and humorless and a totally informational database only or allow it to be more &#039;open&#039; - of course, and this is an amazing idea - u could have BOTH!!&lt;br /&gt;
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So the choice - I believe - is everyone, how do u want your WIKI to be? &lt;br /&gt;
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as u can guess i&#039;d like it to be more &#039;interesting&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:We want people to be bold as in adding content not as in making changes that run against the majority. I Agree SCA science isn&#039;t real science but the majority of the SCA still call it science (this is an SCA wiki).&lt;br /&gt;
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:I never said that the wiki was supposed to be a place or mirth and merryment. In fact the whole thing started so I would have a place to put what I know about the SCA. The software is free the content is open. You&#039;re welcome to start your own wiki. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::In fact I wasn&#039;t even discussing the science thing.. It was more a general &#039;thing&#039;. but point taken. If i wanna add content &#039;dry and humorless it is&#039; - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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*Given that I&#039;m singled out, I guess I should probably reply. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever slapped anyone down - I have, however, edited some pretty weird stuff. I&#039;d like Cunnan to be useful, with a polished, edited look. Articles should be useful before they&#039;re funny - if you can do both, that&#039;s great, if you can&#039;t, don&#039;t. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Styles of articles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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With the above responses, how about we agree to dissgree? &lt;br /&gt;
Morgant wants polished articles, dry and informational, whilst I want interesting and informational articles.&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we compromise, and do both, and aside from grammer [without changing the whole article] or spelling [which morgant does a great job of tidying up] how&#039;s about we leave the other articles alone?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
there IS a certain amount of &#039;ownership&#039; in having authored something, and if you wish to ADD to an article then go for it, but leave the orginal artical in place?  this being a wiki, and us having a &#039;gentlemans agreement&#039; about such things sound make for much better content and enjoyment all round - and redduce the .. erm.. &#039;bickering&#039; ? - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
*Here&#039;s how I feel about this - if everybody restricted themselves to their own articles, this wouldn&#039;t be a wiki. If an article is inaccurate, inappropriate, or otherwise lacking, it should be edited. Not doing so would make for worse, not better content. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Then unlock the page(s) you have locked, and accept my editing in return.  _ Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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== front page counter ==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it working? i have been doing 15-20 articles a day and yesterday it went up 1...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
you might wanna check it &lt;br /&gt;
- Ben&lt;br /&gt;
:Last time I looked into it, the MediaWiki page count tag only counts articles of a significant size. (D&#039;you know what it is, Tobin?) I&#039;m guessing that Ben&#039;s 15-20 articles are predominantly short dictionary-style entries (which Cunnan should avoid, really), and they&#039;re not counting towards the total. Once they&#039;re expanded, they&#039;ll be included in the total. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The articles need to be of some length (one line jokes and short dictionary style stuff wont be counted). They also need to contain at least one link. I&#039;ll have to check what the minimum length is. Also, if you&#039;re not logged in you might be served a cached copy of the page. I&#039;ll be moving this conversation to the village pump when I have time. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Sultana&amp;diff=5292</id>
		<title>Sultana</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Sultana&amp;diff=5292"/>
		<updated>2003-10-01T01:03:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;A horrid little semi-dried [[grape]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Another one of the &#039;If you put this in meals, it makes it medjeeval&#039; type fruits.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Rosewater&amp;diff=1726</id>
		<title>Rosewater</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Rosewater&amp;diff=1726"/>
		<updated>2003-10-01T00:32:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;water that has had rose petals infused into it.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Rome&amp;diff=2299</id>
		<title>Rome</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Rome&amp;diff=2299"/>
		<updated>2003-10-01T00:15:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The capital of [[Italy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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a place that is very old, and &#039;stole&#039; all it&#039;s culture from the greeks.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Marigold&amp;diff=4781</id>
		<title>Marigold</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Marigold&amp;diff=4781"/>
		<updated>2003-10-01T00:11:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Marigold - &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;Calendula officinalis&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt; &amp;lt;p&amp;gt; (calendula, garden&lt;br /&gt;
marigold, holigold, mary bud, pot marigold) &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt; &amp;lt;p&amp;gt; Calendula is an annual&lt;br /&gt;
garden plant with a hairy, branched stem approximately 1 to 2 feet high at&lt;br /&gt;
maturity. The leaves are also hairy and are alternating, with widely spaced&lt;br /&gt;
teeth. The plant blooms during June to October with large yellow or orange&lt;br /&gt;
flowers. &amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;p&amp;gt; This herb is one of the most useful first aid remedies, as it is [spasmolytic], [[anti-haemorrhagic]], [[emmenagogic]], [[vulnerary]], [[styptic]] and [[antiseptic]].&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt; &amp;lt;p&amp;gt; Used externally as a wash or cream, it is good for healing burns and sores. It may also be used to treat [[varicose veins]], ulcers and [[haemorrhoids]]. When applied as an eye&lt;br /&gt;
lotion, it is a remedy for conjunctivitis.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt; A [[calendula]] herbal infusion  based ointment is effective as a soothing and healing treatment for irritated and inflamed skin, as well as for rashes and&lt;br /&gt;
[[eczema]].&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt; &amp;lt;p&amp;gt; By producing a calendula herbal tincture using alcohol, it is possible to extract the antiviral, antibacterial and antifungal properties.&lt;br /&gt;
This tincture (as with the ointment), may then be used to soothe irritated and infalmed skin. It is also an excellent antiseptic healer and will help prevent scarring from cuts, burns and boils.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt; &amp;lt;p&amp;gt; The fresh leaves of&lt;br /&gt;
this plant when crushed, will prevent bleeding and are themselves an antiseptic.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Henry_VII&amp;diff=1806</id>
		<title>Henry VII</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Henry_VII&amp;diff=1806"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T06:22:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: re worded, blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;A King [[of]] england, by the name of Henry.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the &#039;Henry&#039; line came after the 6th one, but before the 8th.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Henry_VII&amp;diff=1709</id>
		<title>Henry VII</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Henry_VII&amp;diff=1709"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T06:16:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;A King [[of]] england.&lt;br /&gt;
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came after the 6th one, but before the 8th.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Light_fighter&amp;diff=2493</id>
		<title>Light fighter</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Light_fighter&amp;diff=2493"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T06:10:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;an [[archer]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Cunnan:Village_pump&amp;diff=1728</id>
		<title>Cunnan:Village pump</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Cunnan:Village_pump&amp;diff=1728"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T03:45:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: wanted articles&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;In [[Medieval village]]s people would gather at the &#039;&#039;&#039;Village Pump&#039;&#039;&#039; to discuss those items that were important to their lives. On [[Cunnan]] the Village Pump serves a similar purpose: Giving users a place to meet and discuss current events, policy and content.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Please add your comments under what is here now (unless someone has a better system :)&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
* The new wiki server has now gone live.&lt;br /&gt;
* Not all the Village pump articles were moved across from the old server (as they were no longer relevant)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Topics ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Copyright violation ===&lt;br /&gt;
*I&#039;m pretty sure that SCA Australia retains the copyright for [[SCA membership form]], unless we&#039;ve got authorisation.&lt;br /&gt;
**Hmmm, they do but the article only links to a copy of the form (as in its never actually been uploaded to Cunnan). Also, the article should probably have information about where to get the forms (not everyone needs the Aussie one) and what not as opposed to just being a copy of the form. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 12:14 23 Jul 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
**So it&#039;s OK to link images stored externally? We should probably just link to the membership page - document names tend to change. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]] 14:14 23 Jul 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
=== Wiki Projects ===&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s an interesting thought: How about finding slightly older and stalled projects and redoing them here? Things like the University Handbook http://www.kateryndedevelyn.org/unvstart.htm&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not saying we steal their work or try to &amp;quot;take over&amp;quot; but these kinds of topics could benifit from having a free wiki version. - Anon&lt;br /&gt;
=== Software Upgrade ===&lt;br /&gt;
* I&#039;ll be upgrading the Wiki [[Cunnan:Software|Software]] Cunnan is running later today 13-Aug-2003. So the wiki might not be useable for an hour or so around 8pm AEST (though it &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; only take a few minutes). You can take a look at what the upgraded software looks like at http://www.wikipedia.org - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
** The software upgrade is now done. The edit times for pages is slightly off at the moment because the new software seems to think it is in the US - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Default skin ===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[User:Newt|Beth]] would like to see the default, ugly, skin to Cologne Blue so that non-logged in visitors dont have to look at the site in an ugly format. Unless people object I&#039;ll make the switch at some point in about a weeks time (or I might even whip up a new skin that just has the basics and no extra fluff). You can set which skin you are using on [[Special:Preferences]] - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 02:13, 26 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Categories ===&lt;br /&gt;
* I&#039;ve turned on the page category feature so now you can add &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[category:foobar]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; to an article to add it to category &amp;quot;foorbar&amp;quot;. These category links should be added to the very top of articles (they are invisible once the page has been saved). Take a look at [[Special:Categories]] to see the categories i&#039;ve already set-up. I wont add the category instruction to the help pages until more of the articles are categorized - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 22:03, 29 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Slow page loading ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Can something be done about the pages reloading? it took me 3 hours to upload 10 articles tonight - every one had to be re attempted 2-3 times, dude to :&lt;br /&gt;
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it isn&#039;t me as the rest of the net flies. is it the SCA.org.au server? can you guys change host?&lt;br /&gt;
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very annoying! - (this edit took 5 tries!)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah this really does suck, the rest of the stuff on sca.org.au loads fine because it doesn&#039;t put as much strain on the server as the wiki software. When the server stops being spam bombed things should get better. I can put the wiki into &amp;quot;miser mode&amp;quot; but then things like [[Special:Wantedpages]] and the full text search wont be turned on. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 00:05, 16 Sep 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== SQL admin stuff ===&lt;br /&gt;
*I&#039;ve turned off the direct SQL query tool for admins. Its never been used, as far as I can tell, and playing with it will only slow the database down anyway. If anyone needs to use it for what ever reason let me know and I&#039;ll turn it back on. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 22:42, 16 Sep 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== &amp;quot;in period&amp;quot; ===&lt;br /&gt;
As this is a wiki devoted to medjeeval junk, why do we need to say &#039;in peroid&#039; or &#039;the period&#039; form, it&#039;s just pox.  &lt;br /&gt;
how about &#039;a common use&#039; or &#039;examples show&#039;  instead. it&#039;s farkin irritating.&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re right it is annoying. I dont know why other users do it but most of the time I add &amp;quot;in period&amp;quot; to make sure people dont get confused with how it is done now or in the SCA. It is kind of redundant though... - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I think [[medjeeval]] is the operative word in this debate- In writing stuff up, we need to distinguish between what was done in medieval times, and what is done by people in  SCA/metal weapons/renfair. Period is a quick &amp;amp; easy SCA-centric term that fits the bill. My personal beef with &#039;period&#039; is that it&#039;s a massive cop-out - we should be saying things like (for example) &#039;Archaeological evidence shows that Lombards used rubber chickens in the early 12th century&#039; in preference to &#039;Rubber chickens are period&#039;.  Do we want to add something to the Cunnan style guide about this? [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== wanted articles ===&lt;br /&gt;
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At the time of writing this i have wittled down the none written articles. there was a few that had been linked 8 times, and now all that remains is 219 with only 2 links or less.&lt;br /&gt;
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i will continue to work on these.&lt;br /&gt;
:: - Ben&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&amp;diff=1710</id>
		<title>Talk:Main Page</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&amp;diff=1710"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T03:42:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: front page counter&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Cunnan Focus?==&lt;br /&gt;
Is this a medieval reenactment wiki or an SCA wiki?  The whole thing looks like it has been set up presuming that the SCA way of doing things is the only way it is done.&lt;br /&gt;
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So which is the truth?  Is it a badly-designed medieval reenactment wiki or is it a SCA wiki that misrepresents itself as a medieval reenactment wiki?&lt;br /&gt;
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: It&#039;s a medieval reenactment wiki, plain and simple, but wikis always reflect the people who contribute to them. Currently, the only contributors (as far as I know) are people from the SCA, so the design, content, the main page, and opinions are all SCA oriented. We write what we know. If you&#039;d like to add non-SCA content, please go right ahead. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]] 11:36, 15 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, it was, way back when we started, a medieval reenactment wiki, and it still is but (almost?) everyone who contributes is in the [[SCA]]. I&#039;d be willing to change the explanation on the front page if people think its misleading. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 12:23, 15 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Arts &amp;amp; Sciences==&lt;br /&gt;
Okie dokie, re the crafts/sciences. What would you have things such as [[astronomy]] under? It could be argued that there are no arts in the SCA only crafts (or the emulation of period art, at any rate). I&#039;ll agree that no &#039;&#039;true&#039;&#039; science in done in the SCA but there are certainly people who apply themselves to the study of period sciences. &lt;br /&gt;
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Feel free to tell me I&#039;m wrong (is this the first wiki argument? ;-) - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 14:10 6 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:- Tobin: *I* feel that there&#039;s a number of people who do the &#039;crafts&#039; of olde, and VERY few who actually do [[astronomy]] - and then they aren&#039;t doing the science of it, mearly recreating the &#039;elements&#039; that were developed.&lt;br /&gt;
:Why not leave it as craft and see how many people actually object ? never hurt to irritate anyone :)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Point taken but there are people that do astronomy and I dont think it should be thought of as a craft. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::When more than 3 people use test tubes and actually reinvent the wheel, rather than just follow someonelses work - sold. till then No Dice. The SCA does Crafts.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Follow someone else&#039;s work vs. reinventing the wheel? I think it&#039;s important to distinguish between science and scientific discoveries. Nobody&#039;s claiming to be making scientific discoveries - these have already been made. Think about it like Crafts - nobody&#039;s inventing new ways of doing things - we&#039;re trying to recreate what was done before. We&#039;re investigating science as it was done during the middle ages. I enjoy researching medieval cryptography - it doesn&#039;t mean that I have to invent new methods of frequency analysis. Also, and more importantly, Arts, Crafts &amp;amp; Sciences is a pain to say. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]] 11:22 11 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Arts &amp;amp; Sciences (again)==&lt;br /&gt;
A google search reveals something in the region of 1,500 results for &amp;quot;sca &amp;quot;arts and crafts&amp;quot;&amp;quot; but more than 7,500 results for &amp;quot;sca &amp;quot;arts and sciences&amp;quot;&amp;quot;. I&#039;ve never met an A &amp;amp; C officer and doubt I ever will (even if that is a more accurate term. Shoule we start calling all [[constable]]s &amp;quot;order enforcing people&amp;quot; just because some people think &amp;quot;constable&amp;quot; suggests that they are part of the police force?)&lt;br /&gt;
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The point I&#039;m trying to make is that, regardless of accuracy, people say A &amp;amp; S not A &amp;amp; C (if you were searching for A &amp;amp; S stuff on the web which would be seaching for?) If the SCA &#039;&#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039;&#039; a game then it really doesn&#039;t matter but there is no point in being non-standard. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 21:29, 25 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Newt|Newt]]: Well let&#039;s start a trend, Tobin! We can slowly change the SCA to &#039;&#039;our&#039;&#039; way of thinking. Hmm.. I see what you&#039;re saying but I think with regards to the wiki we&#039;re just looking for ways of grouping topics nicely. There&#039;s nothing much to put under &#039;sciences&#039;, but you can very easily split up our &#039;arts&#039; (which is currently damn huge) into &#039;arts&#039; and &#039;crafts&#039;. Re: knowne worlde handbooke... Sui does have a point!&lt;br /&gt;
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:That sounds exactly like something sui would say ;-) It doesn&#039;t worry me if we add in a Crafts topic but taking out the sciences link (or going through that whole pointless &amp;quot;Crafts (&amp;quot;sciences&amp;quot;)&amp;quot; thing again would be a bad thing, IMO. Split up the Arts link if you want and then add Crafts to the main page. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 10:23, 27 Aug 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Arts and Sciences (yet again)==&lt;br /&gt;
I can see we&#039;re about to have this argument again. Reading what was said in the previous arguments, I&#039;ll not change it back right now but, the fact remains people say A &amp;amp; S not A &amp;amp; C (&amp;quot;correctness&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t enter into it, this is an SCA wiki and in the SCA people say A &amp;amp; S) - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]] 14:00, 26 Sep 2003 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:yes.. and americans are ALWAYS right about everything..  *sigh* glad to see that u can atleast accept change though Tobin.  Now can the hard link from craft -&amp;gt; science, be removed? they are different!  - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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::The link isn&#039;t hard, any logged in user remove it. The link goes from Crafts to [[Sciences]] not [[science]]. Also using Arts and crafts on the main page means that anyone searching google for Arts and Sciences (which would be most going on the number of hits google returns) wont find Cunnan&lt;br /&gt;
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::I intend to change the link back from Crafts to sciences. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;BE bold&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think this statement should be removed from the front page.  Anytime i have been bold or attempted anything slightly .. erm.. off beat.. it has been quickly slapped down, and yes i am going to single Morgant out here.  Either have the policy that this is to be dry and humorless and a totally informational database only or allow it to be more &#039;open&#039; - of course, and this is an amazing idea - u could have BOTH!!&lt;br /&gt;
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So the choice - I believe - is everyone, how do u want your WIKI to be? &lt;br /&gt;
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as u can guess i&#039;d like it to be more &#039;interesting&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:We want people to be bold as in adding content not as in making changes that run against the majority. I Agree SCA science isn&#039;t real science but the majority of the SCA still call it science (this is an SCA wiki).&lt;br /&gt;
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:I never said that the wiki was supposed to be a place or mirth and merryment. In fact the whole thing started so I would have a place to put what I know about the SCA. The software is free the content is open. You&#039;re welcome to start your own wiki. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::In fact I wasn&#039;t even discussing the science thing.. It was more a general &#039;thing&#039;. but point taken. If i wanna add content &#039;dry and humorless it is&#039; - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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*Given that I&#039;m singled out, I guess I should probably reply. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever slapped anyone down - I have, however, edited some pretty weird stuff. I&#039;d like Cunnan to be useful, with a polished, edited look. Articles should be useful before they&#039;re funny - if you can do both, that&#039;s great, if you can&#039;t, don&#039;t. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Styles of articles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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With the above responses, how about we agree to dissgree? &lt;br /&gt;
Morgant wants polished articles, dry and informational, whilst I want interesting and informational articles.&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we compromise, and do both, and aside from grammer [without changing the whole article] or spelling [which morgant does a great job of tidying up] how&#039;s about we leave the other articles alone?&lt;br /&gt;
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there IS a certain amount of &#039;ownership&#039; in having authored something, and if you wish to ADD to an article then go for it, but leave the orginal artical in place?  this being a wiki, and us having a &#039;gentlemans agreement&#039; about such things sound make for much better content and enjoyment all round - and redduce the .. erm.. &#039;bickering&#039; ? - Ben&lt;br /&gt;
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== front page counter ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it working? i have been doing 15-20 articles a day and yesterday it went up 1...&lt;br /&gt;
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you might wanna check it &lt;br /&gt;
::- Ben&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Barley&amp;diff=3655</id>
		<title>Barley</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Barley&amp;diff=3655"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T03:36:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;a [[grain]].&lt;br /&gt;
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if crushed up the juice is then dehydrated to make molasis and malt, which is used in [[beer]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Leek&amp;diff=1743</id>
		<title>Leek</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Leek&amp;diff=1743"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T03:32:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;a horrid vegetable, that tastes much like onion.  along with [[current]] if put into food, makes it medjeeval.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Leatherwork&amp;diff=17249</id>
		<title>Leatherwork</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Leatherwork&amp;diff=17249"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T03:28:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;the working and shaping of [[leather]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Plant&amp;diff=8622</id>
		<title>Plant</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Plant&amp;diff=8622"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T03:24:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;1) a [[spy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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2) a woody or fiberus thing, that undergoes photosynthes.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) a bunch of equipment or machinery&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Cumin&amp;diff=5218</id>
		<title>Cumin</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Cumin&amp;diff=5218"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T03:17:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;what kids shout aas they abandon play with their friends, as their parents yell for them, &amp;quot; I&#039;m CUMMIN!!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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heh heh heh actually having seen it written like that ....&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Flower&amp;diff=1715</id>
		<title>Flower</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Flower&amp;diff=1715"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T03:14:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The sexual gland of a [[plant]].&lt;br /&gt;
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it produces nectar to attract insects, and pollen with which it shares it&#039;s genes to other plants.&lt;br /&gt;
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Humans find flowers attractive for their beauty and scent.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Italian&amp;diff=1711</id>
		<title>Italian</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Italian&amp;diff=1711"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T03:11:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;of [[italy]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Documentation&amp;diff=1718</id>
		<title>Documentation</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Documentation&amp;diff=1718"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T03:00:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Supporting printed evidence of a claim about something.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Grain&amp;diff=5368</id>
		<title>Grain</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Grain&amp;diff=5368"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T02:58:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The [[seed]] of wheat and other cultivated grasses.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Fowl&amp;diff=2934</id>
		<title>Fowl</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Fowl&amp;diff=2934"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T02:46:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: Blert!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Birds that are domesticated to eat or hunt (to eat).&lt;br /&gt;
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These Birds were a popular dish in medieval cuisine - in later period, fowls were considered more suitable for human digestion than &#039;gross&#039; meats such as beef.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[chicken]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[duck]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[swan]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Sweden&amp;diff=5347</id>
		<title>Sweden</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Sweden&amp;diff=5347"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T02:41:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;a cold place where the vikings came from (sorta)&lt;br /&gt;
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tall blonde blue eyed ppl live here&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Thistle&amp;diff=4817</id>
		<title>Thistle</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Thistle&amp;diff=4817"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T02:38:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;an evil spikey [[weed]]. it grows with a purple [[flower]], in cold hard areas.  It is often used as an emblam&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Known_World&amp;diff=2972</id>
		<title>Known World</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Known_World&amp;diff=2972"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T02:34:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The worlde as it is knowne.&lt;br /&gt;
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the map of the SCA world.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Currant&amp;diff=6602</id>
		<title>Currant</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Currant&amp;diff=6602"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T02:32:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;a hard, dried grape. &lt;br /&gt;
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apparently if you put them in [[stews]] it makes them medjeeval.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Pigment&amp;diff=1714</id>
		<title>Pigment</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Pigment&amp;diff=1714"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T02:29:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;the colour that is in [[dies]].  the pigment is what gets into the material (of any sort) that changes its colour.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Scotland&amp;diff=3234</id>
		<title>Scotland</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Scotland&amp;diff=3234"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T02:22:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;the land of Scotts..&lt;br /&gt;
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near [[Ireland]], [[england]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Printing&amp;diff=3903</id>
		<title>Printing</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Printing&amp;diff=3903"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T02:17:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;the craft whereby ink is imprseed unto paper of material. Usually using a press of some form.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Compleat_Anachronist&amp;diff=2134</id>
		<title>Compleat Anachronist</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Compleat_Anachronist&amp;diff=2134"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T02:14:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The SCA&#039;s permier Arts and CRAFTS periodical.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
very kewl articles.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Salad&amp;diff=6430</id>
		<title>Salad</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Salad&amp;diff=6430"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T02:11:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The leaves of [[lettuce]] and other garden vegetables that you throw into [[rabbit]] [[hutches]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Indigo&amp;diff=1713</id>
		<title>Indigo</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Indigo&amp;diff=1713"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T02:05:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;the 6th colour in the visible light spectrum.&lt;br /&gt;
roygbIv ...&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=China&amp;diff=3698</id>
		<title>China</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=China&amp;diff=3698"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T02:00:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;a large place in the &#039;far east&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It has been home to [[ghangis kahn]] and a number of other nasties over the years.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s people are notorious throught he ages for [[herbal tea]]s, and powered tiger dick.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Wyne&amp;diff=1754</id>
		<title>Wyne</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Wyne&amp;diff=1754"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T01:55:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;a silly way of saying [[wine]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Plum&amp;diff=1707</id>
		<title>Plum</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Plum&amp;diff=1707"/>
		<updated>2003-09-30T01:53:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;a purple [[fruit]]. It&#039;s jiuce canused to make wine.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Fowl&amp;diff=1703</id>
		<title>Fowl</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Fowl&amp;diff=1703"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T06:55:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;A bird that is specificy bred to eat:  [[chicken]], [[duck]], etc...&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Cordial&amp;diff=1683</id>
		<title>Cordial</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Cordial&amp;diff=1683"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T06:20:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: LINK tiff.. link... u can do it!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;1)A friendly and warm gretting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2)A [[tonic]] made from plant matter (eg fruits, vegetables, leaves).&lt;br /&gt;
Medeival cordials could be [[alcoholic]] or [[non-alcoholic]] and were generally consumed for their presumed good effects upon the person&#039;s health.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Modern fruit cordials (concentrates of fruit juice and [[sugar]] which are diluted wth water) availible in [[australia]] (but strangely rare in nothern europe) bear some similarity to certain medeival cordials, and are thus often provided to drink at feasts in [[Lochac]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sciences&amp;diff=1679</id>
		<title>Talk:Sciences</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sciences&amp;diff=1679"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T06:14:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: BLERT&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;In much the same manner as [[arts]] why is crafts automatically redirected to[[sciences]] ???&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
this is STUPID.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
they ARE different.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[Art]] no longer redirects to [[Arts]]. [[Crafts]] redirects to [[sciences]] because crafts had no content of its own (and wouldn&#039;t have any content that Sciences, from an SCA perspective, didn&#039;t). [[Science]] doesn&#039;t redirect to [[Sciences]] - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::then it should be a blank page with &amp;quot;see also: science(s)&amp;quot; till someone does an article....  - Ben  same as Art&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
definately - crafts may or may not be the same as arts, but is definately not the same as sciences.  (at least not by the more common usages of the words).  [[Tiff]]  (of course if we were better with the wiki we could just do this ourselves).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Everyone (as far as I know) can change redirect pages - see the Editing help for details. To access the redirect page, try going to the page you want to edit, then click on the link at the top of the page you&#039;re redirected to (where it says &amp;quot;Redirected from:&amp;quot; or some such business). You&#039;ll be left on the redirect page, where you can edit it to your heart&#039;s content. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::: we want a redirect REMOVED.....  - Ben&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Duck&amp;diff=14881</id>
		<title>Duck</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Duck&amp;diff=14881"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T06:10:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;1)A water [[fowl]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These birds make a [[quack]] sound and float on water. They have large webbed feet, lay bigger [[egg]]s and have softer chest [[feather]]s (down) than [[chicken]]s. They taste very nice with [[plum sauce]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2)The motion a human makes when lowering themselves under something, a cross between a squat and a bend over, is to &#039;duck&#039; under something..&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Skep&amp;diff=1701</id>
		<title>Skep</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Skep&amp;diff=1701"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T06:07:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;A wicker or straw basket that has been turned upside dopw to house [[bees]].  Later forms of these are made from clay.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Pastry&amp;diff=17394</id>
		<title>Pastry</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Pastry&amp;diff=17394"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T06:02:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Usually a [[flour]] based shell that is wrapped around food, to hold the contents whilst the food is cooked.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=India&amp;diff=1690</id>
		<title>India</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=India&amp;diff=1690"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T05:54:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;A mystyrious &#039;sub continet&#039; of Asia...&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Egypt&amp;diff=6790</id>
		<title>Egypt</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Egypt&amp;diff=6790"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T05:37:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;A sandy place, on the [[Nile river]]. A place where they build giant stone [[pyramids]] to worship their dead.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Camping_event&amp;diff=3863</id>
		<title>Camping event</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Camping_event&amp;diff=3863"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T04:55:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;An event that tents and fire pits are standard.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You spend the night in your tent (hence camping) and [[cook]] your own food.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Cordial&amp;diff=1675</id>
		<title>Cordial</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Cordial&amp;diff=1675"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T04:31:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;a friendly and warm gretting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a tonic&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=New_Zealand&amp;diff=1695</id>
		<title>New Zealand</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=New_Zealand&amp;diff=1695"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T04:23:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;When they broke the old Zealand, it formed 2 halves.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now this cast off piece of [[Ausralia]] is 2 islands.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
New Zealand is a shiny and wonderfull place full of excitenment and adventure.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Pope&amp;diff=1673</id>
		<title>Pope</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Pope&amp;diff=1673"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T04:16:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Old guy, head of the catholic church.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
lives in [[Vatican]], [[Italy]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Carrots&amp;diff=1665</id>
		<title>Carrots</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Carrots&amp;diff=1665"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T04:06:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;An [[orange]] vegetable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
grows as a [[conical]] root in he ground.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They remain in the human bile gland awaiting a time to be thrown up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
not a nice vege at all.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Sewing&amp;diff=1687</id>
		<title>Sewing</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://cunnan.lochac.sca.org/index.php?title=Sewing&amp;diff=1687"/>
		<updated>2003-09-29T03:11:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Ben: blert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;the binding of two seperate pieces of [[material]] together, by forcing a thread of another matherial through both itmes.  this process forms a [[stitch]]. many of these stitches are deemed as sewing.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
the stitches may be decrative or purely functional.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ben</name></author>
	</entry>
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