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Scholastics

2003-11-13T05:33:07Z

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'''Scholastics''' -- followers of [[Scholasticism]].

See also [[Humanists]], [[Humanism]], and [[Renaissance]].

It is a commonly held belief amongst [[Humanists]] (and [[User:Del]]) that all scholastics are tendentious, irrelevant, out-dated, dusty old stick-in-the-muds who argue and dispute about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

See [[Scholasticism]] for a a robust defence of the Scholastics by [[User:Anton]]

Poetic meter

2003-11-13T05:15:39Z

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Talk:Scholasticism

2003-11-13T05:13:17Z

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Anton,

You forgot the neo-scholastic revival of the late 16th C: Started in 1534 by one Inigo Lopez de Loyola (you keeled my father, prepare to die). I'm sure you know the chaps.

Although you have to admit that by that stage the Universities were teaching Humanism, and the scholastics had been beaten.

[[User:Del|Del]]

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Oh, and you should add the team mascot and poet laureate: Dante Alighieri (of Divina Commedia fame, as opposed to not-so-Divina Commedia dell'Arte which was definitely one of ours).

[[User:Del|Del]]

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Yeah, I probably should note the Scholastic Revival.

I dont think Dante has any Scholastic credentials whatsoever ; just writing about God isnt enough to make you a Scholastic ... it's that you do so by use of formal logic, reason and argument.

Anton

Talk:Burned at the stake

2003-11-13T05:04:19Z

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Del,

I'm gonna have to disagree with the statement. While this may be true in certain geographic areas (eg England and the New World) it is not true of other areas where the witchcraft craze took place. I will be adding to this page at a later date. [[User:Jos|Jane of Stockton]] 10:23, Nov 13, 2003 (EST)

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Yup, go for it, but provide some real evidence that isn't post-Crowleyist.

Germany and Scotland were amongst the few places in period when people were burned at the stake for alleged(*) witchcraft. In nearly all of the rest of Europe, those burned at the stake were those accused of heresy. Even the Malleus Maleficarum only prescribes burning at the stake of witches who were convicted of heresy (i.e. those who professed to be christians but were not).

(*) alleged, only. There were almost certainly very few real witches in period, and those accused of witchcraft were mostly just cranky old ladies with a bad widows hump and a pet cat. The Malleus Maleficarum was written by a couple of badly delusional paranoid misogynists, and can't be accepted as fact.

[[User:Del|Del]] 15:06, 13 Nov 2003 (EST)

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Cant remember the exact journal article - I think it was the Sixteenth Century Journal --- but it was arguing that far more of those killed in Germany during the Great Witchcraft Craze were men than has been commonly thought.

The bibliography in the article might be worth a look for the rewrite, to see what the state of the art is for historical work on the topic.

Anton

Talk:Italian Renaissance

2003-11-13T04:49:44Z

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This probably needs to be edited, I've put the warning about neutrality at the top for now (it can be taken out once someone with more knowledge on the topic has a change to look at it). - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]

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heheh.

Of course I'll dispute the statement that says:

''the Humanists concentrated on winning the argument rather than having their facts and logic straight''

... until the cows come home, but it was written by an avowed scholastic.

I'll re-write this article at some point but be aware I'm a humanist. I'll try to keep it neutral, though. I will concede the point that Italian princes blew huge chunks of cash on stuff, but then again the renaissance was the first time that they had huge chunks of cash to blow.

[[User:Del|Del]]

Del,

I'd disagree with 'the renaissence was the first time that they had huge chunks of cash to blow'. One of the reasons for the level of consipicous consumption during the Quattracentro was that the Med was going through a commercial recession - before that, you dumped spare money into making more money. During the recession, you could either lose it trying to trade goods or invest, or you could blow it on a nice palazzo or some paintings ...

Anton