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United States

2003-11-05T16:15:19Z

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#REDIRECT [[United States of America]]

Talk:Sciences

2003-11-05T00:50:04Z

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In much the same manner as [[arts]] why is crafts automatically redirected to[[sciences]] ???

this is STUPID.

they ARE different.

:[[Art]] no longer redirects to [[Arts]]. [[Crafts]] redirects to [[sciences]] because crafts had no content of its own (and wouldn't have any content that Sciences, from an SCA perspective, didn't). [[Science]] doesn't redirect to [[Sciences]] - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]

::then it should be a blank page with "see also: science(s)" till someone does an article.... - Ben same as Art

:::No, it shouldn't. Do you want a link on the front page to an article that doesn't exist? - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]

definately - crafts may or may not be the same as arts, but is definately not the same as sciences. (at least not by the more common usages of the words). [[User:Tiff|Tiff]] (of course if we were better with the wiki we could just do this ourselves).

:Exactly! This is why the front page should say Arts and Sciences not Arts and crafts. Arts '''may''' be the same as crafts but it is not the same as sciences. People in the SCA ''know'' the difference between SCA crafts and SCA sciences. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]

Everyone (as far as I know) can change redirect pages - see the Editing help for details. To access the redirect page, try going to the page you want to edit, then click on the link at the top of the page you're redirected to (where it says "Redirected from:" or some such business). You'll be left on the redirect page, where you can edit it to your heart's content. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]

: we want a redirect REMOVED..... - Ben

:: Then edit the redirect. Redirects are normal pages that can be edited. See Editing Help for details. [[User:Morgant|Morgant]]

::Follow Morgant's instructions then. Go edit the article and remove the "#REDIRECT [[foobar]]" and it will no longer be a redirect. Anyone can do this. No redirects on Cunnan are hard. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]

== Sciences in the SCA ==
This is going to seem like baiting but taking a look in the SCA corpora the word Sciences would seem to be correct. In fact [http://www.sca-caid.org/library/docs/corpora.hbk.html Corpora] doens't mention the word "craft" even once but Arts and Sciences can be found many times. - [[User:Tobin|Tobin]]

Talk:Lucet

2003-10-30T22:50:48Z

134.134.136.1: when?

Any info on when/where these were used?

Alchemy

2003-10-29T00:22:02Z

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Alchemy was a pseudoscience of [[medieval]] times, probably influenced by the [[Egypt]]ians and the [[Greek Philosophy]] of [[Aristotle]].

It's based on the idea that the world is composed of the four elements [[fire]], air, water and earth. These elements are considered to be contained in all things, the most common example being wood which "obviously" contained earth (which was why it was hard) and water (sap when squeezed out) and air (smoke when lit) and fire (you could light it). It was a nice little theory...

The basic idea of the atom as the "smallest unit of divisibility" was also formed during this time - though this truly bears little relation to the present-day concept of the atom (which is merely named after the Aristotelian concept). Atoms were considered to be tiny, perfect spheres and made up of one of the four above-mentioned elements... like I said, a nice little theory and a lot more advanced than the infinite-turtles style of science that was around previously.

One of the concepts was that, because [[lead]] and [[gold]] (the perfect metal) were from the earth element, earth could therefore be turned into lead and gold using an "appropriate catalyst" known as the [[Philosophers Stone|Philosopher's Stone]]. This was a magical substance which could turn water into [[wine]], heal the sick, and as mentioned, turn really boring lumps of metal into gold and [[silver]]. Most of it though was just processes like mixing [[copper]] with [[arsenic]] to give it a silver finish, or a philosophical trick by which the alchemist's apprentice, through years of hard work and training, was turned from lead (ie an ignorant klutz) into gold (ie an alchemically educated klutz). :)

Despite never discovering the Philosopher's Stone, alchemists did come up with a number of interesting reactions and the knowledge gathered eventually led to the foundations of modern [[chemistry]].

Alchemy also gave rise to concept of the [[panacea]], the "medicine" to cure all illnesses - also never found, but a search for it led to an interesting number of ways to poison oneself (mercury, silver and lead poisoning being numbered under the chief ways that alchemists died).

Quadrivium

2003-10-28T21:35:45Z

134.134.136.1: link to wikipedia

The word ''quadrivium'' means ''four way crossroad''. Along with the [[trivium]], the quadrivium made up the [[seven liberal arts]]. The quadrivium consisted of [[arithmetic]], [[geometry]], [[music]] and [[astronomy]], and was the [[science]] stream of medieval learning.

=== External Links ===
* Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrivium